This thread can be used to discuss the roster building process for this tournament. I will be posting roster stats below.

Link to original thread in the classifieds

Here is a list of players (over $500K) taken at least twice over the two leagues. Note that I considered salary as a difference, so Bill Bernhard has 10 instances of his $9.54 million 1902 season and 2 instances of his $9.37 million 1902 season.
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Pos	.	Player	.	Lg A	.	Lg B	.	Total
SP		1902 Bill Bernhard 9542392		4		6		10
OF		2019 Ketel Marte 5488645		3		6		9
OF		1921 Max Carey 5644324		3		4		7
SP		1981 Andy Rincon 2145127		4		2		6
RP		2020 Ryan Sherriff 973534		3		3		6
SP		1943 Howie Pollet 4748560		3		2		5
SP		1908 Ed Walsh 19584074		1		3		4
SP		1906 Ed Reulbach 7780698		2		2		4
OF		1885 Henry Larkin 6911762		1		3		4
SP		2008 C.C. Sabathia 4896303		0		4		4
SP		1992 Cal Eldred 3666856		2		2		4
SP		1965 Robin Roberts 3019867		1		3		4
RP		2020 Adam Kolarek 2361953		1		3		4
RP		1918 Roy Mitchell 1750831		4		0		4
SP		1972 Steve Busby 1599385		2		2		4
RP		2006 Chris Sampson 1075450		2		2		4
SP		2018 Jacob deGrom 9223818		2		1		3
SP		1945 Roger Wolff 9008741		2		1		3
SP		2022 Sandy Alcantara 7498847		1		2		3
SP		1914 Rube Foster 6810579		2		1		3
3B		1913 Frank Baker 6697127		1		2		3
SP		1972 Roger Nelson 6569265		2		1		3
3B		2017 Jose Ramirez 6025058		3		0		3
2B		2000 Luis Castillo 5994296		1		2		3
OF		1887 King Kelly 5821295		0		3		3
1B		1885 Cap Anson 5759576		0		3		3
SP		1908 Bill Burns 5210524		2		1		3
SS		1925 Dave Bancroft 5041263		1		2		3
1B		1887 John Kerins 4884588		2		1		3
RP		1944 Joe Berry 4688458		2		1		3
SP		2005 Roy Halladay 4614701		1		2		3
C		1979 Butch Wynegar 4587809		2		1		3
SP		1914 Rankin Johnson 3873041		1		2		3
SP		1917 Chief Bender 3661522		2		1		3
RP		2020 Brad Hand 3285615		2		1		3
RP		2020 Victor Gonzalez 2916370		2		1		3
RP		2013 Tony Watson 2499182		3		0		3
SP		1946 Red Ruffing 2456877		2		1		3
SP		1912 Carl Weilman 1995364		3		0		3
SP		1915 George Dumont 1794025		2		1		3
RP		2020 Shawn Armstrong 1686362		1		2		3
SP		2015 Rich Hill 1542827		1		2		3
RP		2006 Brandon League 1295019		2		1		3
2B		2019 Asdrubal Cabrera 1277798		2		1		3
RP		1983 Jeff Heathcock 1067688		1		2		3
SP		1917 Walter Johnson 12558905		1		1		2
SP		1966 Sandy Koufax 12073009		2		0		2
SP		1905 Ed Reulbach 11791726		1		1		2
SP		1906 Tully Sparks 10784929		0		2		2
SP		1965 Juan Marichal 10387386		1		1		2
SP		1902 Bill Bernhard 9370956		1		1		2
SP		2009 Tim Lincecum 8869602		0		2		2
OF		1929 Babe Ruth 8562422		2		0		2
SP		2017 Corey Kluber 8244559		0		2		2
SP		2020 Kenta Maeda 8235952		1		1		2
SP		1909 Cy Morgan 7964234		2		0		2
SP		1902 Ed Siever 7638033		1		1		2
SP		2018 Aaron Nola 7394530		1		1		2
SP		1992 Dennis Martinez 7349072		2		0		2
1B		1886 Roger Connor 7318035		2		0		2
SP		1914 Ray Caldwell 7291663		1		1		2
SP		1944 Tex Hughson 7095760		1		1		2
OF		1910 Tris Speaker 7081136		0		2		2
SS		1987 Tony Fernandez 6985330		0		2		2
2B		1923 Eddie Collins 6922949		1		1		2
SP		2018 Chris Sale 6859436		2		0		2
1B		1934 Hank Greenberg 6847666		2		0		2
OF		2003 Carlos Beltran 6776425		2		0		2
SP		2022 Zac Gallen 6711594		2		0		2
2B		1923 Jimmy Johnston 6633384		1		1		2
OF		1983 Tim Raines 6604201		1		1		2
SP		1981 Dave Righetti 6603260		1		1		2
OF		1947 Harry Walker 6255350		1		1		2
OF		1941 Sam Chapman 6225072		2		0		2
OF		2019 Cody Bellinger 6156119		2		0		2
C		1964 Elston Howard 6127701		1		1		2
SS		1920 Dave Bancroft 6107894		1		1		2
1B		1919 George Sisler 5991939		1		1		2
SS		2008 Jimmy Rollins 5909402		1		1		2
OF		1914 Steve Evans 5835655		0		2		2
C		2013 Yadier Molina 5771212		1		1		2
C		1889 Fred Carroll 5758679		2		0		2
3B		1896 George Davis 5750532		1		1		2
1B		1901 John Anderson 5735425		1		1		2
3B		1930 Pie Traynor 5610161		1		1		2
3B		1939 Buddy Lewis 5607520		1		1		2
3B		1891 Duke Farrell 5581078		2		0		2
3B		1895 George Davis 5506148		1		1		2
OF		1895 Mike Tiernan 5504889		1		1		2
SP		1902 Joe McGinnity 5486751		2		0		2
2B		1986 Johnny Ray 5399367		0		2		2
OF		1990 Willie McGee 5330423		0		2		2
3B		1928 Jimmie Foxx 5209335		1		1		2
SP		1914 Ernie Shore 5056420		1		1		2
1B		1893 Roger Connor 4991236		1		1		2
1B		1939 Hal Trosky 4961116		1		1		2
1B		1894 Jack Doyle 4921990		2		0		2
SS		1930 Travis Jackson 4897315		2		0		2
OF		1990 Willie McGee 4587037		1		1		2
SP		2006 Francisco Liriano 4549222		2		0		2
SP		2022 Clayton Kershaw 4433103		0		2		2
SP		1906 Roy Patterson 4427815		2		0		2
2B		2021 Whit Merrifield 3925819		2		0		2
RP		2006 Cla Meredith 3044827		0		2		2
SP		1938 Dizzy Dean 3031963		0		2		2
SP		1943 Johnny Niggeling 2992540		1		1		2
RP		1988 Dennis Eckersley 2921414		1		1		2
RP		1992 Roberto Hernandez 2830065		2		0		2
RP		2010 Mariano Rivera 2805809		2		0		2
SP		1907 Nick Maddox 2620891		2		0		2
SP		1942 Johnny Rigney 2503514		1		1		2
RP		2007 Hideki Okajima 2499631		1		1		2
SP		1987 Pascual Perez 2423339		1		1		2
SP		1929 Al Grabowski 2224288		1		1		2
C		2006 Josh Bard 2172897		1		1		2
RP		1915 Mellie Wolfgang 1975978		2		0		2
RP		1924 Babe Adams 1889346		1		1		2
RP		1943 Jack Hallett 1793302		1		1		2
SP		1888 Frank Dwyer 1736327		1		1		2
RP		1928 Hal Haid 1728394		2		0		2
SP		2017 Justin Verlander 1615140		2		0		2
SP		1967 Dick Bosman 1613211		1		1		2
OF		1903 Ed Delahanty 1608054		2		0		2
RP		2018 Jesse Chavez 1497275		1		1		2
3B		1915 Tex Wisterzil 1360463		0		2		2
RP		2012 Raul Valdes 1342007		1		1		2
SP		1898 Sam Leever 1340079		2		0		2
SP		1931 Bill Harris 1311295		1		1		2
RP		1923 Les Howe 1183935		2		0		2
RP		1964 Bobby Shantz 1142530		1		1		2
SS		1993 Nelson Liriano 1139236		1		1		2
SP		1911 Charlie Smith 1045018		1		1		2
RP		1946 Tom Ferrick 1037358		2		0		2
SP		1941 Ray Starr 1027407		0		2		2
RP		1909 George Suggs 1010662		2		0		2
SP		1922 Johnny Cooney 946597		0		2		2
2B		2009 Ronnie Belliard 945731		0		2		2
RP		1908 Jack Ryan 899427		0		2		2
SP		2016 Alec Asher 876208		1		1		2
OF		1991 Jim Lindeman 749956		1		1		2
OF		1909 Fred Snodgrass 650207		0		2		2

There is a measure (I call it the Cookie Score) that I've come up with, that gives a numerical score to how common or uncommon your roster is, relative to oithers. If all 25 of your players was only taken once (i.e., only by you), your Cookie Score would be 1.000. I weight the number of occurances by salary, so having a popular $10 million player on your roster weighs much more than having a popular $200K player on your roster. Here are the Cookie Scores by owner. The average cookie score in this tournament is 1.835.
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Owner	.	Score
d_rock97		3.624
mensu1954		3.160
redwingscup		3.056
Bill_James47		2.965
wojowojo		2.916
chewy3344		2.904
joerat1		2.753
big_dowg		2.651
besterateam		2.622
ejstockman		2.490
_JJP_		2.448
discodemo		2.328
Jdh34		2.311
winnetka1		2.185
skunk206		2.150
schwarze		1.806
DoctorKz		1.803
teamhydro		1.717
justinlee_24		1.689
PirateSteve		1.662
GaryEave		1.651
ronthegenius		1.629
ssbritt		1.626
alice		1.623
oldtimer59		1.612
Fusion27s		1.602
Yonge		1.582
dougpalm		1.581
sford		1.558
fatguyrd		1.554
nordawg		1.536
garmansouth		1.525
Jtpsops		1.425
bigsteve12		1.396
3dayrotation		1.317
goatherders		1.312
Franze33		1.311
mllama54		1.303
Ribbentrop		1.291
pmars2001		1.267
BernieBaseba		1.243
D6KStl		1.232
mpitt76		1.195
ML_dad		1.186
gwhouse		1.099
BBill		1.097
BeAllEndAll		1.064
je3rd		1.004

Often, the key to winning a league or tournament is drafting the right number of innings. Draft too many and you are wasting salary. Draft too few, and the fatigue death spiral will eventually take hold. Here are the number of innings drafted by each owner. I've split it out to show how many of the innings are from sub $500K guys which I've designated as mopup. The average per team is 1409 (1396 > 500K, 13 mopup)...
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Owner	.	Total IP	.	IP>500K	.	Mopup IP
3dayrotation		1184		1184		0
BBill		1277		1277		0
_JJP_		1308		1282		26
oldtimer59		1315		1315		0
Franze33		1328		1277		51
Bill_James47		1339		1313		26
D6KStl		1341		1341		0
Jtpsops		1344		1344		0
dougpalm		1349		1349		0
ronthegenius		1351		1351		0
justinlee_24		1357		1332		25
sford		1360		1360		0
besterateam		1362		1362		0
BeAllEndAll		1366		1366		0
schwarze		1369		1369		0
wojowojo		1373		1346		26
ML_dad		1373		1345		28
BernieBaseba		1380		1330		50
discodemo		1380		1380		0
GaryEave		1386		1386		0
mllama54		1388		1388		0
skunk206		1389		1389		0
bigsteve12		1394		1394		0
Jdh34		1395		1340		55
d_rock97		1405		1352		53
mensu1954		1408		1408		0
teamhydro		1411		1411		0
big_dowg		1420		1420		0
PirateSteve		1421		1421		0
chewy3344		1424		1424		0
redwingscup		1425		1425		0
ejstockman		1427		1376		51
Fusion27s		1435		1407		28
fatguyrd		1436		1436		0
alice		1439		1439		0
winnetka1		1440		1413		27
joerat1		1441		1441		0
gwhouse		1447		1447		0
mpitt76		1448		1409		39
goatherders		1469		1469		0
Ribbentrop		1470		1414		56
DoctorKz		1482		1428		54
Yonge		1486		1451		35
nordawg		1499		1499		0
pmars2001		1541		1541		0
garmansouth		1561		1561		0
ssbritt		1591		1591		0
je3rd		1694		1694		0

A total of 33 different ballparks were drafted (although some may be the same park, but a different name, or different franchise - I didn't check for that). It's not surprising that pitchers' parks dominant the top of the list. Fewer runs scored = fewer innings needed to draft = more salary spent on hitting and/or pitching quality.
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Ballpark		Count
Target Field (Minnesota Twins: 2010-2022)		5
Astrodome (Houston Astros: 1965-1999)	.	3
Petco Park (San Diego Padres: 2004-2022)		3
Tiger Stadium (Detroit Tigers: 1961-1999)		3
AT&T Park (San Francisco Giants: 2006-2022)		2
Ebbets Field (Brooklyn Dodgers: 1913-1957)		2
National League Park II (Cleveland Spiders: 1887-1890)		2
Veterans Stadium (Philadelphia Phillies: 1971-2003)		2
Yankee Stadium (III) (New York Yankees: 2009-2022)		2
Busch Stadium (II) (St. Louis Cardinals: 2006-2022)		1
Chase Field (Arizona Diamondbacks: 2006-2022)		1
Comiskey Park (I) (Chicago White Sox: 1910-1990)		1
Crosley Field (Cincinnati Reds: 1934-1970)		1
Exhibition Stadium (Toronto Blue Jays: 1977-1989)		1
Exposition Park (III) (Pittsburgh Pirates: 1891-1909)		1
Griffith Stadium (Washington Senators: 1911-1960)		1
Humphrey Metrodome (Minnesota Twins: 1982-2009)		1
Jarry Park (Montreal Expos: 1969-1976)		1
Jefferson Street Ground (Philadelphia Athletics: 1871-1891)		1
Kauffman Stadium (Kansas City Royals: 1994-2022)		1
Lloyd Street Grounds (Milwaukee Brewers: 1901-1901)		1
Metropolitan Stadium (Minnesota Twins: 1961-1981)		1
Miller Park (Milwaukee Brewers: 2001-2022)		1
Minute Maid Park (Houston Astros: 2002-2022)		1
Municipal Stadium (Kansas City Athletics: 1955-1967)		1
Municipal Stadium (Kansas City Royals: 1969-1972)		1
Polo Grounds (IV) (New York Yankees: 1913-1922)		1
Riverfront Stadium (Cincinnati Reds: 1970-1996)		1
Safeco Field (Seattle Mariners: 1999-2022)		1
Shea Stadium (New York Mets: 1964-2008)		1
Sicks' Stadium (Seattle Pilots: 1969-1969)		1
Truist Park (Atlanta Braves: 2017-2022)		1
Wrigley Field (Chicago Cubs: 1926-2022)		1

What is the best allocation of your salary. Some prefer to spend a bit more on pitching, others want more offense. Not surprisingly, the league average is pretty close to 50/50. (i.e., $49.7 pitching, $50.3 on hitting)
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Owner	.	Pitching	.	Hitting	.	Total
pmars2001		54,973,887		45,019,239		99,993,126
sford		53,641,742		46,346,044		99,987,786
Fusion27s		52,881,762		47,070,100		99,951,862
dougpalm		52,409,998		47,586,190		99,996,188
joerat1		52,382,992		47,559,615		99,942,607
alice		52,376,820		47,617,049		99,993,869
d_rock97		52,228,504		47,758,974		99,987,478
schwarze		52,169,229		47,826,712		99,995,941
wojowojo		51,557,118		48,430,241		99,987,359
Bill_James47		51,238,727		48,748,817		99,987,544
DoctorKz		51,177,953		48,812,449		99,990,402
besterateam		51,140,928		48,857,696		99,998,624
mpitt76		51,120,634		48,871,440		99,992,074
mensu1954		50,985,329		49,011,374		99,996,703
ejstockman		50,925,766		49,070,945		99,996,711
BeAllEndAll		50,863,487		49,082,541		99,946,028
ML_dad		50,790,897		49,102,153		99,893,050
3dayrotation		50,757,538		49,242,154		99,999,692
redwingscup		50,738,952		49,253,063		99,992,015
chewy3344		50,644,506		49,252,543		99,897,049
GaryEave		50,395,001		49,587,834		99,982,835
discodemo		50,365,787		49,621,098		99,986,885
skunk206		50,312,563		49,492,832		99,805,395
garmansouth		50,013,810		49,904,855		99,918,665
Jdh34		49,965,476		50,033,795		99,999,271
goatherders		49,898,848		50,092,560		99,991,408
ssbritt		49,896,335		50,041,668		99,938,003
oldtimer59		49,864,889		50,083,120		99,948,009
winnetka1		49,801,614		50,137,776		99,939,390
big_dowg		49,767,625		49,928,472		99,696,097
justinlee_24		49,716,602		50,269,820		99,986,422
je3rd		49,244,327		50,737,829		99,982,156
ronthegenius		49,059,876		50,939,689		99,999,565
bigsteve12		48,995,954		50,968,617		99,964,571
gwhouse		48,847,290		51,149,964		99,997,254
nordawg		48,419,049		51,580,524		99,999,573
Franze33		48,357,792		51,642,000		99,999,792
BernieBaseba		48,294,284		51,704,593		99,998,877
Yonge		48,197,407		51,787,912		99,985,319
BBill		47,571,488		52,426,455		99,997,943
Jtpsops		46,978,006		52,976,188		99,954,194
teamhydro		46,923,039		53,006,088		99,929,127
PirateSteve		46,744,644		53,220,802		99,965,446
fatguyrd		45,587,003		54,404,758		99,991,761
D6KStl		45,354,622		54,643,453		99,998,075
_JJP_		45,060,902		54,939,032		99,999,934
mllama54		44,427,814		55,562,482		99,990,296
Ribbentrop		41,479,077		58,520,328		99,999,405

I may post other stats throughout the season.

A lot of teams don't have a mop.

The only Kershaw cookie is the '22 version. That's interesting...the only Speaker cookie is 1910.

I drafted a few more innings than usual, but my non-mop is less than 20 more than the 1,409 average. Perhaps i didn't overshoot.

Owner	.	Total IP	.	IP>500K	.	Mopup IP
3dayrotation		1184		1184		0

that moment when you realize that 30+ teams in a tournament might have made you forget to fix something from another team... hoping i can avoid a death spiral...

Posted by 3dayrotation on 11/3/2022 11:08:00 AM (view original):

Owner	.	Total IP	.	IP>500K	.	Mopup IP
3dayrotation		1184		1184		0

that moment when you realize that 30+ teams in a tournament might have made you forget to fix something from another team... hoping i can avoid a death spiral...

You're in Petco, low OAV and decent K/9 numbers so you might survive. it might require a sacrifice of someone on the staff. Downing would get my vote. Manage it between every game, stay on top of pitch counts, below 90% is not terrible...

I survived a lower cap with DH with 1,125 recently, nearly 100 were mops....some of these offenses aren't world-beater types...

I went for higher range at SS, 2B and 1B, Johnston, Collins and Moon. Carey in CF too. I'm trying AT&T to make better use of that range, instead of Target. Our bats aren't terrific, but we should have enough, and we sport pretty decent OBP. Hopefully the defense, and deadball SP limit XBH considerably...

So is it good or bad that I have the most unique roster?
I also have the most IP. Makes me wonder if I wasted salary on too many innings?

I have 5 pitchers and 1 hitter that are dupes.

I have 1899 G Davis, who is on the dupe list twice for other years.

Pollett, Sabathia, 22 Kershaw, Rankin Johnson, Halladay. (wonder if they are all on the same team LOL)

Trosky 1B

Good posts; thanks for putting together. I probably spent more time than I should making judgements and comparisons, but at the end of the day, if my "cookie score" is any indication of success, I guess I'm in pretty good company. Ha.

Sacrifices had to be made defensively, but since I have ~630 adjusted IP of dead-ball starting pitching, I went with strong IF gloves/range (will be subbing 3B early with a lead - McGraw doesn't fit the definition of good glove/range, but his caddy Wisterzil does). Had to the OF slide a bit.
Was a bit surprised 2 others rostered the '22 Alcantara. I was determined to roster him to see if he's actually the value he appears to be, but didn't expect him to be "popular" (if you consider 3 iterations in total over 48 teams to meet that definition). The fact '47 Walker and '90 McGee were only taken twice each was also surprising to me. I consider them to be a excellent value at this cap.

I originally had McGraw penciled in at 3rd, but the errors scared me off. I took a decent fielding Boggs season ('91)...