We just had a blow-up in one of our worlds with a few newer owners, stemming from cash in trades. One guy just lost it, and another is claiming we are the only world out there that vetos/discourages trades where the cash is more than the salary. I find that hard to believe as this seems to be a fairly common opinion on the forums. I realize some people are OK with it, and some are not, and I'm not really looking for a debate on the topic as it's been done before. I'm mainly looking for some information and your help.

Can you please respond with any worlds you play in where there is a hard rule against including more cash in a trade than is enough to cover salary (private worlds) or if there is no rule but those trades are typically vetoed (private or public)?

I'm curious now if we truly are "the only world" where we veto this type of trade more often than not. Thanks in advance.

No "hard" rule, but generally trades of that type will be vetoed in Cooperstown and Moonlight Graham.

Particularly in MG . . . just seeing one of those trades accepted by two owners will ignite a firestorm.

In Branch Rickey there's a hard rule. In another couple of worlds I'm in the sometimes get shot down, in another couple anything goes.

All 4 of my "regular" worlds veto more cash than salary. Braggin' Rights is a different kind of world with special rules.

Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 6/13/2009No "hard" rule, but generally trades of that type will be vetoed in Cooperstown and Moonlight Graham
Particularly in MG . . . just seeing one of those trades accepted by two owners will ignite a firestorm

I think "firestorm" may be a little harsh. Perhaps a spirited discussion...

I will always veto deals where the cash involved exceeds the salary difference. I don't care why or if they think they have the greatest reason ever for doing it, it's vetoed. I don't care who the owners are or how long they've been in the league. I don't even look at the owners or the players.

Is Major Leagues (private), a trade like that generally prompts discussion on the board, but no "hard rule" veto (as a World, can't say for certain whether any individual owners automatically veto). If both parties can articulate why they believe the trade helps them, it will generally be allowed. Established owners in the World may be given more leeway than guys who have only been in the World for a few seasons.

thanks for the responses so far...appreciate it. would appreciate more responses from others as well, but so far looks like my assumption that this isn't completely uncommon is holding true

The end result of such moves is "buying" players. I don't think you're going to find many private worlds that allow such a thing.

in addition to the cash greater than salary thing, I personally don't like to see any cash that isn't "needed" (i.e. the trade would work under the teams' caps without the cash)

Just my personal opinion, but in a league where cash is valuable why would buying a player be a bad thing? I can understand in the big leagues you dont want a team like the yankees sending $20 million to a team like KC for a young star, and letting the KC owner pocket the cash. However, in HBD if you can get an extra $10 million for a player you could use that money in prospects and sign a decent international prospect with it. As long as the money is going to bettering your team, I dont see what the big deal is...
Thoughts?

That is straight from the "It's my team, I should be able to do what I want with it!" handbook.

What is good for 1-2 teams isn't necessarily good for the league.

Quote: Originally Posted By cbriese on 6/13/2009

Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 6/13/2009
No "hard" rule, but generally trades of that type will be vetoed in Cooperstown and Moonlight Graham.
Particularly in MG . . . just seeing one of those trades accepted by two owners will ignite a firestorm.

I think "firestorm" may be a little harsh. Perhaps a spirited discussion..

You're new there. "Firestorm" would be appropriate for what has occurred in previous seasons.

Can you provide a cliffs notes version of the world chat? That has to be one of the longest disagreements I've ever seen.

Quote: Originally posted by hypnotoad on 6/13/2009Can you provide a cliffs notes version of the world chat? That has to be one of the longest disagreements I've ever seen.

Most of it wasn't a discussion about the cash in trades...most of it was a complete and utter meltdown by caracarn...

We were warned by several owners before last season that he has trashed several worlds. But he actually acted normal last season. he went completely nuts yesterday.

He also released all of his players. Classy.

We have several tickets into customer support to get his team transferred and get admin to clean up the mess he created. Unfortunately it is the weekend and who knows when they'll get to it.