Ok I was hoping someone out there can give me some insight on what happened to my squad here. I will admit I was extremely ****** yesterday and it pretty much ruined my day. However today is different and now I just want some logic to help me prevent such things from happening in the future.

My team was 20 something and 2 in the regular season and had an RPI of 6 and SOS in the 20's. I was conferance Champions in both regular season and tourny. I was 4-0 vs ranked opponets and got the number 2 seed in the National Tourny.

Early in the season, I played this game.

12/19

@Bridgewater St.

W79-38

28

50

56.0

7

9

77.8

16

30

53.3

10

35

13

21

21

6

19

79

In the first round of the National tourny I play this game.

01/04

Bridgewater St.

L69-67

24

43

55.8

5

11

45.5

14

15

93.3

7

24

7

23

9

0

27

67

anyone know how this happened. No sour grapes I plan on scheduling this team as often as possable now. I want to beat the crap out of them as much as possable now.

Very bizarre. I had the same kind of thing happen in a conference tourney some seasons back...slaughtered the team during the season...was favored by 35 against 2-25 Delta State at a neutral site and we lose by 3.

A 43 point swing when the location became more favorable for you is unjustifiable in my eyes. I'd love to hear CS' explanation here.

FWIW, Bridgewater State does have the higher OTR (535 to 531) lol. Don't expand on this lol.

Can you link the teams profile in? I would assume he for one ran an offense with different players getting the ball more, also he probably improved a lot over the course of the season, next he probably has a lot better IQs now than he did earlier, and finally he got lucky probably.

Sucks when you beat the crap out of someone and then lose to them later, I know from first hand experience.

Schored, you can click on his profile, click hoops dynasty and access it that way through his Wentworth Tech team....go to the schedule and find Bridgewater State.

34 down to 14 turnovers. That is the difference I just looked at the two games. I would assume he sunk some IQ time into his offense and shored up the TOs.

Also, bridgewater st. ran a slowdown in the second game which game him a little boost from not having as many possessions against your superior team.

Not that I really care a whole lot but I did send it in to CS just so you could hear their explanation.

What could I have done to counter his tempo change? or is it just one of them things, that I have to learn to deal with.

Well there is others that can answer your tempo questions. I don't know the answer for sure as you were running uptempo yourself.

I would chalk it up to bad luck, its one of things that happens, sometimes a great team will get upset in the NT.

They were running a -2 FCP with only 6 players experienced in running the FCP. In the 2nd game, they switched to M2M and by that time had much more IQ depth. Your teams actually match up really well. The second result is closer to what I would expect. I think he must have been transitioning defenses during the season. On offense, they went slowdown in the 2nd game, which may account for some of the fewer turnovers.

for starters, the other team was going through a defense change this season. that is likely going to result in a very high degree of volatility in the outcomes.

also, you ran uptempo against a significantly faster set of guards. this is very possibly a major disadvantage for you. he played slowdown, allowing his team to grind against your press. you ran against his defense, only forcing him to spend a small % of the time on defense. press is more tiring than anything, and i suspect man is more tiring than any offense (at least except fb), so this probably was a major stamina disadvantage to you, on top of the potential major disadvantage from running uptempo against a faster team. TBH, the volatility in those two games is not too surprising. fairly unlikely, but nothing shocking either.

hope that helps!

Quote: Originally posted by schroedess26 on 1/04/2010Well there is others that can answer your tempo questions. I don't know the answer for sure as you were running uptempo yourself.

I would chalk it up to bad luck, its one of things that happens, sometimes a great team will get upset in the NT.

luck is definitely a factor. a +/- 20 point swing is not unrealistic, probably at least 95% of games stay in the 20 point swing, but that means about 2% of games will fall outside on either side. i gave an explanation of why this outcome was not as unlikely as the spread would suggest, but lucky was definitely a requirement to make it happen. its just not remarkably bad luck, IMO.

Quote: Originally posted by btown on 1/04/2010What could I have done to counter his tempo change? or is it just one of them things, that I have to learn to deal with.

i am fairly certain normal tempo would have significant increased your odds of winning, due to his significant speed advantage.

Thanks billy I'll remember that and try to change things up in the future.

Quote: Originally Posted By schroedess26 on 1/04/201034 down to 14 turnovers. That is the difference I just looked at the two games. I would assume he sunk some IQ time into his offense and shored up the TOs.

Also, bridgewater st. ran a slowdown in the second game which game him a little boost from not having as many possessions against your superior team

Does this really justify a 43 point swing though? That's 21 buckets

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