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This is Charles Helms, a PF on my shippensburg team. I recruited him to be a low-post threat, and I have not gotten much production out of this guy so far. I start the season with 8 distro in him, and he continues to shoot badly and i whittle it down to 1 or 0 near the end of the season. He has good ATH and LP so he should be a good scorer inside, right? He has pretty decent speed too so I thought that would help. Let me know your thoughts, obviously his rebounding is low so he doesn't get many putbacks but I thought he would be able to generate his own offense when he got the ball in the post.

I also realize scoring is a combination of a lot of different things, but I feel like he should be able to shoot 45% and score 8 pts a game playing 20 min a game with his ratings/iq

You are two games in. Very small sample size to say he isn't playing up to his ratings. I didn't even look at who was guarding him, that could be a major part of his low FG% through 2 games. How much distro is he getting compared to who he is in with?

It has been 2 games. You can't really make any judgments like you said. And if you want to have him be a scorer having 1 or 0 in him is going to make him a non-factor. An 8 distro is literally nothing if you want your offense to run through him. You need closer to 20-25 if you really want the O to run through him on a gamely basis.

Quote: Originally posted by gbous314 on 1/30/2010I also realize scoring is a combination of a lot of different things, but I feel like he should be able to shoot 45% and score 8 pts a game playing 20 min a game with his ratings/iq

Not with such low distro he won't.

yep-- he's never going to score until you let him shoot.

You're seriusly panicking over nothing here. He's taken 9 shots in the regular season and has made 3, even Dwight Howard has gone 3-9 over that span and he shoots 60% every season. Including your preseason games he's shot 10-22 in the 3 game besides the last game he went 0-2. Either up his distro so he takes more shots and lower the distro of the players around him. You don't need to put his distro at 20+you just want his distro to be at least 2x higher than the next closest player.

Also I it's important to note that your PGs passing isn't that good, neither PG is in the 80s, that will have an impact on his scoring as well.

Quote: Originally posted by kmasonbx on 1/30/2010You're seriusly panicking over nothing here. He's taken 9 shots in the regular season and has made 3, even Dwight Howard has gone 3-9 over that span and he shoots 60% every season. Including your preseason games he's shot 10-22 in the 3 game besides the last game he went 0-2. Either up his distro so he takes more shots and lower the distro of the players around him. You don't need to put his distro at 20+you just want his distro to be at least 2x higher than the next closest player.

2x isn't always going to assure you of that. I wish I could find davis old thread on distro (Davis you around?). It had some really really good info on how distro works and why, quite often, a player with 8 distro v one with 12 and why the 8 one has the ability to shoot more then the 12 one often.

Anyway, my point is that you have to understand who he will be playing with and base his distro off of how much you would like him shooting v the others he is with.

Right now on my Illinois team my leading scorer comes off the bench. He is not the highest distro on my team overall but based on who he is playing with and where he will be getting his shots.

Quote: Originally posted by kmasonbx on 1/30/2010Also I it's important to note that your PGs passing isn't that good, neither PG is in the 80s, that will have an impact on his scoring as well.

Both pgs are right around 80 and Spoon is 80+. That is good for D2

You are joking here, right?

He has played 2 games and taken a grand total of 9 shots in those 2 games.

Last season, he started and played 19 minutes per game and only averaged 2.2 PPG. But he shot 54%, you didn't give him the ball.

What are you taking about?

I started a season about 3 seasons ago with only 1 SR. I wanted him to be my main guy so I upped his distro a lot. In game 1 I was reading the PBP and he started out 1 for 5 so I panicked wondering why he isn't the scorer I thought he would be.

I was talking more in general, mostly the past 2 seasons. He started last year and did not perform well and he was mid 70s in ath and lp. I didn't mean to make it sound like I was panicking, I was just sort of looking for an explanation of why he wasn't that great of a LP threat over his career so far. At the start of last season I gave him 8 distro, he shot in the 30s percentage wise, and I reduced his distro until he was shooting a good percentage.

I usually decrease my players' distro if they don't perform well over the course of multiple games, and when this guy gets the ball he shoots poorly, so I end up not giving him the ball so he doesn't hurt my FG%

Quote: Originally posted by gbous314 on 1/30/2010I usually decrease my players' distro if they don't perform well over the course of multiple games, and when this guy gets the ball he shoots poorly, so I end up not giving him the ball so he doesn't hurt my FG%

A couple games is really very very very small sample size to be drastically changing your distro imo. There are way too many other factors, double teams, defenses against him and so on that could be keeping him shooting lower that you just can't tell after 5-8 games (or 2).

IQ is a big factor too, it is much harder to get a Freshmen to score then a Senior. Without knowing all the facts I would guess that since he is just now a Junior that his increased IQ will help him out quite a bit over the course of the entire season.

Quote: Originally posted by wronoj on 1/30/2010yep-- he's never going to score until you let him shoot.

Hes averaged just over 1 shot a game his entire career. My guess is you probably gave him about 2 games before you went "omg I need to lower his distro". Give the man the ball!