March Madness going to 96 teams Topic

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I read this article today, not sure of its merits. But it's a shame.
"The NCAA reportedly wants a new, 14-year deal with its network partner(s) with an early opt-out only available to the NCAA. (Overplaying its cards?) As my sources indicate, the NCAA is already dead-set on expanding to a 96-team hoops tournament"

Statistically, this reduces by a good bit the odds of the BEST team winning the tournament. Will HD also cave with a 96 team tourny?
2/1/2010 1:10 PM
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Pathetic. This is the stupidest thing they could do. Way to destroy the whole feeling of 'making the dance'. Its an honor to make the field and should be kept that way. There is no need for adding more teams to the field, if anything they could add 3 more teams and have 4 play-in games. But that is by far the most that they should do.

Unreal how stupid some people can be.
2/1/2010 1:14 PM
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This is a terrible idea...it gives 1-8 seeds first round byes...way too many byes...if they were to expand it at all, I'd say go to 68 or 72....give all 1s and 2s first round byes, but no more than that.

Not that it matters, this would practically render the NIT and CBI obsolete as well.

EDIT: Shocked that zhawks and I actually agree on something lol.
2/1/2010 1:14 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 2/01/2010
This is a terrible idea...it gives 1-8 seeds first round byes...way too many byes...if they were to expand it at all, I'd say go to 68 or 72....give all 1s and 2s first round byes, but no more than that.

Not that it matters, this would practically render the NIT and CBI obsolete as well.

EDIT: Shocked that zhawks and I actually agree on something lol.



The CBI was osolete before it was thought of... It is more pointless then 90% of the Bowl games in College football, the difference being in college football you actually care about the bowl your team is in (right? it has been so long since I have felt this... damn illini) whereas you don't give a **** if your team is in the CBI.
2/1/2010 1:19 PM
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Fair enough.
2/1/2010 1:20 PM
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But I agree with the rest in your post. Sure, fine 7 teams (i still think it is 7 too many to add) really are there 31 more teams each year that deserve to be in the Big Dance?

The answer is very obviously no.
2/1/2010 1:22 PM
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Well you can also look at it as lets go back to just 32 or 16 teams. Its all relative and people though 64 was WAY to huge. Another 15 years and 96 teams would seem normal.

Also, I don't agree though that the best teams won't win the tournament. The teams that are getting added would be like a 10-15 team seed. The #1 and #2 seeds rarely if ever loose to them anyways. I wouldn't worry about the top team not winning.
2/1/2010 1:42 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By schroedess26 on 2/01/2010
Well you can also look at it as lets go back to just 32 or 16 teams. Its all relative and people though 64 was WAY to huge. Another 15 years and 96 teams would seem normal.

Also, I don't agree though that the best teams won't win the tournament. The teams that are getting added would be like a 10-15 team seed. The #1 and #2 seeds rarely if ever loose to them anyways. I wouldn't worry about the top team not winning.
Completely disagree, the fans have no opinion (well we do it just doesn't matter). If you mean 'normal' because we have no choice, then sure.
2/1/2010 1:49 PM
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Well don't you think 64/65 teams is normal?
2/1/2010 1:51 PM
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You're just adding 32 more teams that won't win the title, so what's the point? Is a "Big Dance" snub really going to run the table, win 6 games (under the proposed 96 team format, 7 games) and capture the NCAAB title? Not a chance...I'd bet my life on that.
2/1/2010 1:52 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By schroedess26 on 2/01/2010
Well don't you think 64/65 teams is normal?
It is because nobody has a bye per se. Even if you go to 128...what's the point?
2/1/2010 1:53 PM
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Format history

The NCAA tournament has expanded a number of times in the last 65 seasons. This is a breakdown of the history of the tournament format:
1939–1950: eight teams
1951–1952: 16 teams
1953–1974: varied between 22 and 25 teams
1975–1978: 32 teams
1979: 40 teams
1980–1982: 48 teams
1983: 52 teams (four play-in games before the tournament)
1984: 53 teams (five play-in games before the tournament)
1985–2000: 64 teams
2001—present: 65 teams

Prior to 1975, only one team per conference could be in the NCAA tournament. However, a few factors led the NCAA to expand the field, notably the 1971 season when USC was #2 in the country with only 2 losses (both to #1 UCLA), and the 1974 ACC basketball Tournament final between Maryland and NC State, both of whom were top 5 teams that year.
2/1/2010 1:54 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By schroedess26 on 2/01/2010Well don't you think 64/65 teams is normal
I think it is a good number to accurately give everyone a chance of competing for a title AND making it a privalige to make it.

Answer my question, are there 31 teams every single year that deserve to get in and don't? (Hint: the answer starts with a N and ends with an O)
2/1/2010 1:54 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By colonels19 on 2/01/2010

Quote: Originally Posted By schroedess26 on 2/01/2010
Well don't you think 64/65 teams is normal?
It is because nobody has a bye per se. Even if you go to 128...what's the point?
All this does is make the regular season less important. There is no point. Hell let's just put everyone in!!!

Edit: By this I meant 96, but 128 meets that too, wasn't calling out your point.
2/1/2010 1:55 PM
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