Super PG Ratings

Yr. GP GS MIN FG% FG3% FT% OREB REB AST TO STL BLK PF PTS
23 20 20 29.2 .492 .451 .650 1.0 3.2 2.6 4.4 2.6 0.2 2.4 33.2

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are you serious?

the guy's got all the team's distro.

everything about this guys stats makes complete and perfect sense

Quote: Originally posted by mrpolo09 on 2/11/2010are you serious?

the guy's got all the team's distro.

everything about this guys stats makes complete and perfect sense

Yep, I'm serious. It does make perfect sense and understand why his A/TO is why it is.

But you missed the point of my post. It just goes to prove A/TO is a misleading stat.

you make no sense. is this for the sole fact that his position lists him as a PG? just because he's slotted at the PG spot, doesnt mean he should have PG numbers. the guy has all the distro. so compare him to SGs

and i contend the opposite. this example shows just how valuable A/TO is. If this guy was at least even in A/TO, the team would have won even more games.

ditro is way too high and its hurting this team....

but the guy is getting 33 ppg. Woopie! maybe he'll get drafted from DII, awsome! and maybe the team gets its bubble burst as well.

He had 5 assists total until the last 2 games he had 18 assists to like 6 turnovers.

Quote: Originally posted by mrpolo09 on 2/11/2010you make no sense. is this for the sole fact that his position lists him as a PG? just because he's slotted at the PG spot, doesnt mean he should have PG numbers. the guy has all the distro. so compare him to SGs

and i contend the opposite. this example shows just how valuable A/TO is. If this guy was at least even in A/TO, the team would have won even more games.

ditro is way too high and its hurting this team....

but the guy is getting 33 ppg. Woopie! maybe he'll get drafted from DII, awsome! and maybe the team gets its bubble burst as well.

You're going off on different tangents and making it more complex than it should be.

By itself A/TO ratio is an overrated stat. Maybe I shouldn't have used the word "misleading"

Look at the games in which he isn't getting all the distro though. He is a monster.

26+ Shots a Game: 6 Assists to 59 TOs
18 or less Shots a Game: 45 Assists to 28 TOs

Also you should note that the games where he is not shooting 20+ times he probably is still drawing doubles teams cause of his games where he attempts 40+ shots.

Truthfully his A/TO is pretty high, but when you don't pass the ball you cant get assists and you see that in the numbers when he shoots 20+ times.

I'm saying A/TO is an overrated statistic because there is no way to measure it by itself. You can't really compare Magic Johnson to John Stockton using just that formula. MJ could've been a more natural PG, but you wouldn't know it using the A/TO formula.

I totally agree with polo that this is a bad/bizarre example.

That said, A/TO is totally screwed up in HD, to the point that I basically don't pay any attention to it and haven't for awhile.

The makers of the current engine were under the impression that you can't score and rack up assists. In real life, most of the top assist guys are also good scorers. Look at the NBA assist leaders:

Chris Paul, 20 ppg; Steve Nash, 18 ppg; Deron Williams, 18 ppg; Rondo, 14 ppg; Kidd, 9 ppg; LeBron, 30 ppg; Baron Davis, 16 ppg; Westbrook, 16 ppg; DWade, 26 ppg. They're all scorers except for Kidd.

Big Ten: McCamey, 16 ppg; Turner, 19 ppg; Nolan, 7 ppg; Thompson, 13 ppg; Harris, 18 ppg. Again, it's almost all guys who score and rack up assists.

Assists and A/TO in HD are screwed up, but there are hundreds of much better examples than the one above.

Quote: Originally posted by thewizard2 on 2/11/2010I'm saying A/TO is an overrated statistic because there is no way to measure it by itself. You can't really compare Magic Johnson to John Stockton using just that formula. MJ could've been a more natural PG, but you wouldn't know it using the A/TO formula.

there's no way to measure any one stat by itself. take two guys scoring 30ppg. awsome!!

well, what if i tell you one is shooting 32% and the other 54%?

anyway, stupid discussion. i'm done

oldresorter and i talked about this a few times. i even exchanged support cases w/ the former admin.

as daalter stated, "A/TO is totally screwed up in HD".

i have found it SO HARD to have even an avg A/TO ratio in HD. the assists just aren't there.

btw, A/TO ratio is a key stat even used by oddsmakers in vegas and the islands.

Yeah, in HD there might be a problem, but it's an incredibly important stat in RL.

And actually, it's still important in HD if only because TOs can kill you, so the lower the TOs, the higher the A/TO ratio, and the better the team.

I never really looked into A/TO ratio in real life, so you could be correct. I just know in this game, it should be taken with a grain of salt.

Quote: Originally posted by isack24 on 2/11/2010Yeah, in HD there might be a problem, but it's an incredibly important stat in RL.  And actually, it's still important in HD if only because TOs can kill you, so the lower the TOs, the higher the A/TO ratio, and the better the team.

Only problem with that logic, if a player goes 6-8 from 3 pt range, but commits 2 TO's, he's viewed by many as not being a very good PG because the large amount of coaches that see A/TO as important stat for PG's, neglecting the fact he was still productive at his position. That's all.