Hello All,

I've got pick #2, so I will get one of the following two. Any thoughts as to who I should rank 1 Vs 2?

Player A: 2B with defense as follows: 79-74-58-60
Batting #'s:
Contact: 86
Power: 78
LH: 76
RH: 91
Eye: 80
BR: 38
MICS: 98 health, 70 speed, 58 patience, 81 temper, 93 makeup. Overall rating of 91.


Player B: RF w/defense as follows: 80-47-78-63
Batting #'s:
Contact: 68
Power: 92
LH: 90
RH: 81
Eye: 79
BR: 82
Misc: 81 health, 84 speed, 55 patience, 50 temper, 67 makeup. Overall projection of 85.

Either way, I think I get a real nice talent and each guy has their strengths. Player A has pop and should be excellent at putting the ball in play. Also should be a better defender and team player, but lacks the power and speed of player B.

Thanks for the help guys!

For those wondering, I think these two are the clear cut top 2 guys. The top pitcher I'd rank in the top 5 says he won't sign, dead set on finishing college, so I was going to stay away from him, and the other pitchers don't seem like they'll have the impact of the two bats.

A and it really isn't a tough decision.

Thanks Mike, that's what I thought, but sometimes you just need some reassurance. Only my 4th draft and really only the 2cd one where I've really dived in.

Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/22/2010A and it really isn't a tough decision.

Really?

I'd actually lean towards #2 out of the 2. Player 1 would never play 2B for me unless he exceeds projections, so he's a LF (though a very good one). Call defense a push, in my mind, because #2, though far less in glove, could be stuck in RF.

With the bat, it's mostly power vs. contact (with slight weight to splits) and even after update, I'd still probably go power - especially when you consider #2 will be a threat on the basepaths and #1 will run into a lot of outs, particularly if you are aggressive. I would much prefer a higher makeup of #2, but I still think I'd lean that way.

Truth be told though, I'd probably really consider taking a shot at the top pitcher who probably won't sign here.

Yeah, for me.

Health, make-up, VR. Of course, that's assuming all things are equal. Meaning their currents are roughly the same distance away from projections and one isn't a college player being evaluated with 2m while the other is a high school player being evaluated with 20m.

Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/22/2010Yeah, for me.Health, make-up, VR.   Of course, that's assuming all things are equal.   Meaning their currents are roughly the same distance away from projections and one isn't a college player being evaluated with 2m while the other is a high school player being evaluated with 20m.

Right, those are certainly things to consider that we don't know (along with handedness of the batters), but I'm still a bit surprised that it's not even close for you. I take it you don't run much with your squads?

Also, are you accepting player #1 as a future 2B?

I go with A, but its close. His superior health, makeup, vsR, and defensive flexibility make him the choice. I am skeptical that A can ever play 2B however and his speed/baserunning means he's one of those annoying guys that gets caught stealing a lot.

That said, if B was a switch-hitter or y and A is a righty it might flip me to B. DUR could be an issue as well, but I'm guessing with those high OVRs that they both are durable.

I run some. But every player doesn't have to be a runner.

In all likelihood, no. I doubt he gets 79/74. But I'm not accepting player B as a RF either for the same reason. Looks like a LF vs. 1B to me. Although I'd consider both of them for 2B vs. RF under the right circumstances.

Quote: Originally posted by jceffali on 2/22/2010I go with A, but its close.  His superior health, makeup, vsR, and defensive flexibility make him the choice.  I am skeptical that A can ever play 2B however and his speed/baserunning means he's one of those annoying guys that gets caught stealing a lot. That said, if B was a switch-hitter or y and A is a righty it might flip me to B.  DUR could be an issue as well, but I'm guessing with those high OVRs that they both are durable.

If you are skeptical that A can ever play 2B, how does he have more defensive flexibility? I'd feel OK playing A at RF/LF/1B/DH (even though he's below rec's for RF arm) or B playing RF/LF/1B/DH. Both would be above average at any of those spots, but not good enough to play anywhere else.

Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/22/2010I run some.  But every player doesn't have to be a runner.In all likelihood, no.  I doubt he gets 79/74. But I'm not accepting player B as a RF either for the same reason.   Looks like a LF vs. 1B to me.   Although I'd consider both of them for 2B vs. RF under the right circumstances.

Fair enough, I just think that if you were to go above 3 on basestealing/baserunning as a team that player A would cost you quite a few extra outs.

As far as D goes, corner OF are still the one spot I'm still a little willing to skimp on D (esp. if range is solid) so I'd be OK with either at RF/LF, but not anywhere in the INF besides 1B.

Funny enough, this guy http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1072521 misplayed a routine flyball in the 9th to lose me a game just the other day. He might be Player B's cousin.

Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/22/2010Funny enough, this guy http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1072521 misplayed a routine flyball in the 9th to lose me a game just the other day. He might be Player B's cousin.

Now that is bad timing, no wonder it's an easy choice for you right now. That's got to still sting. The guy you linked, though, made only 3 errors in 60 games in RF last year (to go with 3 assists, 2 (+) plays, and 1 (-) play). Even with a wretched glove (worse than player B in all likelihood), he's playing roughly an "average" RF, with his higher-than-average errors (maybe 8-10 for a full season) balanced somewhat by his (+) plays due to better range and some assists. I'd expect Player B to do at least the same (likely slightly better) so I'd be OK with him in RF, esp. given his bat.

OP, what did you mean by "team player" when you said this:

"Either way, I think I get a real nice talent and each guy has their strengths. Player A has pop and should be excellent at putting the ball in play. Also should be a better defender and team player, but lacks the power and speed of player B."

That's why I said "under the right circumstances". I acquired Rivera down the stretch last season when I needed some hitting. I've got him now and I still need his bat but my 1Bs are raking the ball. So he's in RF or LF. And my LFers don't have the arm for right. So I'll take his 10 errors and just hope they aren't all in the 9th that cost me a game.

But, drafting and knowing 4 seasons in advance, is another story. I'd draft him as a 1B. And, because of that, Player A is the obvious choice for me.