How much does it matter when running the press? Will a team that is slower and less athletic than normal but has a high defensive rating do with the press? Will it be able to cope?

With teams I have had before, the biggest effect of D rating in the press seems to be a reduction in defensive fouls.

Defence matters very little in press. A_B is correct, and defemce will help generate steals more consistently.

Just to show how irrelevabt it is, I had a 10 rated player win defensive player of the year. All 4 years of his career.

i think you can sacrifice defense before a lot of other things in the press, but it definitely matters, no question about it. on defense, quite possibly the most important category. at the least, close to it.

Speed and Athl are the keys to success in the Press. Any D above 10 is fine. I used to think it had to be above 20 but Coach Billy G convinced me that 10 is enough.

Quote: Originally posted by gillispie on 3/18/2010i think you can sacrifice defense before a lot of other things in the press, but it definitely matters, no question about it. on defense, quite possibly the most important category. at the least, close to it.

I've been a press coach my whole career, and I agree with this one.

Quote: Originally posted by Weena on 3/18/2010Speed and Athl are the keys to success in the Press. Any D above 10 is fine. I used to think it had to be above 20 but Coach Billy G convinced me that 10 is enough.

a player with 10d can be great, don't get me wrong. a guard with 20 ath can be great. a guard with 20 per can be great. (talking on the d2 level)

but, this doesn't mean ath and per don't matter. for a guy with 10 def or 50 def, all else held equal, that is a pretty big difference in player quality. so, as i mentioned, i think you can give up defense for a lot of things. but it definitely should be part of the equation! defense can easily make the difference between a very good press team, and a great one.

To expand on the earlier point: I think not fouling on defense is, indeed, important.

there is also a strong correlation between defense and steals.

From Lostmyth2:

Quote: How much importance do you put on the Defense rating as it pertains to Man to Man and Press teams in Division 1? Would you consider it a core attribute that is more important than or as important as SPD for a guard and ATH for a post (especially as it pertains to man to man). - gbous134

For man to man, I think defense is the single most important attribute in a guard (from a defensive perspective, it's far more important than speed) and slightly above athleticism and rebounding in a post player.

For press from a purely defensive standpoint, I would still value it slightly above speed for guards and about equal with athleticism for a post player.

From the dev chat:

Defense (def): like rebounding, defense refers to a player's defensive fundamentals and their desire to play defense. Again, knowledge of the fundamentals and having the desire are great, but you also need the athleticism and speed to be a great defender

I take that to mean that a low defense would perhaps not get as many steals as his higher counterparts, but with a high IQ, sp and ath would still put them in position to contest a shot.

Note that lostmyth's quote is specifically for D1. In my experience, you can get away with real bad DEF ratings with FCP in D3 and still have a very good defensive team if you have high ATH/SPD/ST/IQ. It does seem to help, epsecially with steals, but I consider it simply a bonus in D3. From what I've read, apparently it increases in importance in D2 and especially D1.

Quote: Originally posted by edw1225 on 4/07/2010Note that lostmyth's quote is specifically for D1.  In my experience, you can get away with real bad DEF ratings with FCP in D3 and still have a very good defensive team if you have high ATH/SPD/ST/IQ.  It does seem to help, epsecially with steals, but I consider it simply a bonus in D3.  From what I've read, apparently it increases in importance in D2 and especially D1.

i agree with most of this. but, i wouldn't say its that defense increases in importance with press per say as you go up in divisions. i think the relative tradeoffs with other categories stays about the same. however, because the ability to differentiate yourself in other categories diminishes greatly in d1, a poor defense player is never going to be great defensively, and defense has greater potential to be the difference maker.

2 words - Speed & Athleticism

Make that 3 words, throw in Stamina. I ran a Full Court Press D all 7 seasons at Nazareth and you need all 3. Ath 40 or above, Speed 40 or above (50 for guards), and Stamina 70 or above as Freshman.