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Quote: CBS Sports reporter Lesley Visser said NCAA officials told network representatives last week that the tournament's expansion to 96 teams "will happen most likely next year."

In an interview on the Fabulous Sports Babe radio show on ESPN 1040-AM in Tampa, Fla., Visser said Thursday the decision also would mean the elimination of the NIT tournament.
3/21/2010 2:25 PM
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Quote: "They [the NCAA] also oversee the NIT," Visser said during the interview. "Well as you know, it's not the most popular event for schools to go to. Schools would rather go to the NCAA tournament.

What a poor argument "Schools don't want to go to the NIT so we'll just let them into the NCAA's"
3/21/2010 2:26 PM
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More $$ more $$ more $$. Shame.
3/21/2010 2:29 PM
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Patrick Knight, coach of Texas Tech was interviewed today. His team is in the NIT. He's in favor of expansion because it will allow coaches to keep their jobs longer.
3/21/2010 3:10 PM
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The thing we all need to take away from this is that Leslie Visser was on something involving Sports Babes. Umm...no. The show is a complete misnomer.
3/21/2010 3:32 PM
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This year's tourny gives them all the ammo they need to show that plenty of unranked teams can beat the big dogs like Kansas.

That's what you get with a 1-game format instead of a 7-game series like the NBA has. A lot wider variance in outcomes. In a 7 game series, I'd take Kansas over UNI 1,000 times.
3/21/2010 4:07 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by alblack56 on 3/21/2010 Patrick Knight, coach of Texas Tech was interviewed today. His team is in the NIT. He's in favor of expansion because it will allow coaches to keep their jobs longer.

That is such a poor excuse to expand. For 1 you think that presidents and ad's won't just change their expectations? (trust me they will).
3/21/2010 4:08 PM
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Truth. That will be, what, 65 at large teams? Making the NCAAs will be the baseline minimum expectation for all but handful of the crappiest programs in the major conferences.

Winning a game in the NCAAs will become the new making the NCAAs.
3/21/2010 4:16 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By AlCheez on 3/21/2010
Truth. That will be, what, 65 at large teams? Making the NCAAs will be the baseline minimum expectation for all but handful of the crappiest programs in the major conferences.

These BCS teams finished out of the top 96 RPI this season:

ACC: N.C. State, Miami, Boston College, and Virginia

SEC: Alabama, Georgia, Auburn, and Arkansas

PAC-10: USC, UCLA, Oregon, Oregon St, Washington St.

Big 10: Northwestern; Michigan; Penn St.; Indiana

Big 12: Colorado, Iowa St; Oklahoma; Nebraska

Big East: Providence; Rutgers; DePaul
3/21/2010 8:19 PM
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I didn't say they would all make it, I said that would be the baseline minimum expectation for success - ie, mid-tier big conference programs where administrations would currently be happy with, say, making the tournament every other year would expect to be in virtually every year if you expand the tournament. Making the tournament becomes easier, missing it becomes a bigger failure.

I'm simply saying that the idea that inviting more teams to the NCAAs is going to save coaching jobs seems misguided, at best.
3/21/2010 8:27 PM
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I know some people have been pointing to the coaches jobs thing as a motivator for this, but one of the big proponents of expansion has been Jim Boeheim, and I'm pretty sure his job is safe as long as he wants it...
3/21/2010 8:36 PM
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So if the NIT is going to be destroyed in this theory, does that mean all Regular Season Conference Champs get auto bids as well? That would be 31 x 2 (for CTs and CCs) leaving 34 at large selections + whatever is doubled up.
3/21/2010 8:43 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By zhawks on 3/21/2010So if the NIT is going to be destroyed in this theory, does that mean all Regular Season Conference Champs get auto bids as well? That would be 31 x 2 (for CTs and CCs) leaving 34 at large selections + whatever is doubled up
I sincerely doubt they'll do that - they aren't expanding the tournament so they can wind up with multiple representatives from the Patriot League.
3/21/2010 8:45 PM
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These upsets this year are great, but when was the last time a 13 seed won the tourney? When was the last time a 16 seed won a game? This somehow justifies going to 24 seeds?
3/21/2010 8:48 PM
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