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colonels19
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I'd like some of the vets, hell even some of the rookies to tell me the positive and negatives of my team. I know its by no means top of the line, but I didn't expect to be 3-4 either right now, and the fact that we've shot 42.3% or worse in 5 of those 7 games is/has really erked me, since I have pretty good PER and LP ratings, also in consideration to my competition. Again, this team is by no means world busters but we aren't bottom of the barrel either.

So what gives? I promise no "Not Good Enough" statements or anything of the sort, I would really just like a team analysis from people in the know, but also please note that I"m NOT looking for recruiting help/assistance. Thank you in advance.

http://www.whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=12265

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4/28/2010 10:40 AM
wronoj
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Several thoughts:

your team is super young, and is going to struggle some until you get the IQs up

all road games but one, even with bad HCAs for the opponents, exacerbate the prior, and make it hard to beat evenly-matched teams with better IQs than you.

rebounding is a weakness after the one good guy. as your 68 REB freshman improves (hopefully he's high potential there), this will improve.

and to make this worse, you recruited 2 PFs who cannot rebound, and only one of whom MIGHT have the ability to play SF (not sure if this counts as recruiting help or not, since i'm not going to tell you how to get better players, but you need to look at what role the guy's going to play on your team before you recruit him).

you appear to be pretty efficient at shooting 3s-- I might consider jacking a few more, especially vs Simmy, where you know he's playing a 0 defense.

good luck.
4/28/2010 10:56 AM
fd343ny
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I dont have a good feel for the DII context on ratings, so I'll just say what comes from a moment looking at the roster

no seniors

weak IQ - no A's - get that IQ up and the FG% should increase

on defense, I'm not convinced that the plus settings are helping you - keep in mind, plus settings hurt your rebounding and can hurt you generally unless your guys are fast enough to get out there on the perimeter AND then get back home

4/28/2010 10:57 AM
fd343ny
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no dissent from wronoj notes
4/28/2010 10:58 AM
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Brozowski and Nebergall are dragging down your offense. Nebergall has 16 TOs to 1 assist. I'd lessen their distros and give more to the other guys. Why are you jacking 3's with your center, Miller? He's not making them, and that also hurts.

You're pretty good otherwise, and well above-average on defense (.90 points per possession). You're grabbing 60% of available rebounds which is great so far. I expect you to win plenty of games this season.
4/28/2010 11:29 AM
colonels19
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Thank you all thus far for your input. Brozowski and Nebergall have pretty good LP and PERs (Brozo just LP) that's why his distro is fairly high. I had Miller at -1 and he was still chucking 3s, I recently knocked him back to -2 and haven't seen one since..yet.
4/28/2010 11:56 AM
jetwildcat
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knowles and mahon can afford to shoot more 3's
4/28/2010 12:41 PM
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Mahon should be starting in Nebergall spot. Not bad though for a young team though there will be rough spots this season.
4/28/2010 12:56 PM
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Tim Mahon is your best guard, start him and let him shoot a lot, or bring him off the bench and let him shoot a lot. Either way he needs to be taking more than the 6 shots per game he's taking now. As wronoj said your IQs aren't very good, so your team will underperform their ratings. You may be outrebounding your opponents by a good amount but that's because you have played a really awful schedule you should probably be outrebounding your opponents by 20 a game.

I thin the major flaw in your team is you have two of your big scorers being awful passers which will lead to a lot of turnovers. Also your bigs will have a hard time scoring when your PGs are so young. Your team will be a lot better at the end of the season then they are now.
4/28/2010 1:06 PM
colonels19
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Good stuff here guys and I do appreciate the information, suggestions, and cander as well. If for nothing else, you've all given me things to think about and to at least consider...thanks again. If anyone else wants to chime in, feel free...the more the merrier I think.
4/28/2010 3:08 PM
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I think ur rpi is right along with the talent on the roster. There are just to many holes. The idea that I use in d2 is that a player needs to be as close as possible to 100 in what I consider a core rating. Plus you need to make a team that complments each other like if your pg is fast and good at pass/bh then you sg needs high per. or if your sf is low reb then your bigs need high reb. you get the idea
4/28/2010 3:23 PM
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You are starting that freshman center when Miller (your best big man) is coming off the bench. Did you really promise a start to Mason? If so, that's a big no-no unless you absolutely have to due to a battle AND it's not causing you to bench a guy that needs to be starting. If you didn't promise him a start, get him the hell out of there.

You really need to work on team building. You need to balance out your team more as far as position/classes. You just brought in a five-man class with all frontcourt players. You need to have an eye towards roster composition that goes 2-3 seasons out, so that at any time you'll have a mix of veteran bigs and guards, with younger guys backing them up. You don't want a situation where you have all veteran bigs and all young guards, or vice versa. Just gives you glaring weaknesses that everyone will pick on. Also, it's going to result in seniors who aren't even in the starting lineup. It's crucially important that you make full use of your upperclassmen and that they're in the starting lineup. If you've got seniors coming off the bench in DII, that's reflective of bad decision making when it comes to team building.

Same for various skills ... you want to project out and know that, a couple seasons down the road, you'll have enough perimeter shooters, enough good rebounders, etc.

I think you need to be pickier in who you recruit. For example, the pf you're RS'ing had 28 rebounding. You are simply better off taking a walk-on.

I know these are more big-picture items, but I'm more in the "teach the guy to fish" camp. There's already been good breakdown as to the various shortcomings of this particular team. And since I know you're an OTR guy, 549 is anemic for a human-coached DII team.
4/28/2010 4:20 PM
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I would agree with everything suggested here.
4/28/2010 4:25 PM
colonels19
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Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 4/28/2010
You are starting that freshman center when Miller (your best big man) is coming off the bench. Did you really promise a start to Mason? I did...was battling with a good friend of mine and I thought the start would seal the deal and it did. He was talking a lot of stuff so I really wanted to land this guy. Miller's still getting a good amount of minutes. If so, that's a big no-no unless you absolutely have to due to a battle AND it's not causing you to bench a guy that needs to be starting. If you didn't promise him a start, get him the hell out of there.

You really need to work on team building. You need to balance out your team more as far as position/classes. You just brought in a five-man class with all frontcourt players. You need to have an eye towards roster composition that goes 2-3 seasons out, so that at any time you'll have a mix of veteran bigs and guards, with younger guys backing them up. You don't want a situation where you have all veteran bigs and all young guards, or vice versa. Just gives you glaring weaknesses that everyone will pick on. This is good advice, thank you.Also, it's going to result in seniors who aren't even in the starting lineup. It's crucially important that you make full use of your upperclassmen and that they're in the starting lineup. If you've got seniors coming off the bench in DII, that's reflective of bad decision making when it comes to team building. Fair enough

Same for various skills ... you want to project out and know that, a couple seasons down the road, you'll have enough perimeter shooters, enough good rebounders, etc. Again fair enough, I just kind of look for what's good in a fairly close radius to the school and go after what I see fit. Sometimes you have to give up some categories to get some categories.

I think you need to be pickier in who you recruit. For example, the pf you're RS'ing had 28 rebounding. You are simply better off taking a walk-on. Ok.

I know these are more big-picture items, but I'm more in the "teach the guy to fish" camp. There's already been good breakdown as to the various shortcomings of this particular team. And since I know you're an OTR guy, 549 is anemic for a human-coached DII team. I don't think its terrible...I feel the team has underperformed, but that's largely due to the lack of IQ to this point. If I had to peg at the beginning of the season, I probably would have said 6-2 at this point, not 4-4.

4/28/2010 4:42 PM
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You continue to put up these threads in order to mock me. I know it. They are to constantly remind me how your team isn't very good, yet you beat me. That's the point of these threads. Stop it, colonels, I can't take it anymore.
4/28/2010 5:12 PM
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