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Cleveland beats Boston by 31 on the road and then loses by 32 at home, 63 point swing, that would never happen in real life...
5/12/2010 1:21 AM
mfkidd
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On top of that, the Boston point guard had a ridiculous number of rebounds in that 2nd game. Would never happen.
5/12/2010 4:41 AM
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Now now. YOu know that real life only counts when it supports calling a result ridiculous, if the real life result swings the other way, there is an excuse for it that shouldn't count in the sim.

5/12/2010 5:45 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By kmasonbx on 5/12/2010Cleveland beats Boston by 31 on the road and then loses by 32 at home, 63 point swing, that would never happen in real life..
I can't stand when people do this...anything and everything is acceptable in real life because there's nothing more random than real life. Real life can't ever be wrong, HD/sim games can.
5/12/2010 11:58 AM
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See? Told you. ANy evidence to the contrary? Ignore it. A very convenient position for him to take. . . It never happens, unless it does, and if it does it suddenly doesn't matter.



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5/12/2010 12:35 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By a_in_the_b on 5/12/2010
See? Told you. ANy evidence to the contrary? Ignore it. A very convenient position for him to take. . . It never happens, unless it does, and if it does it suddenly doesn't matter.



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I've never changed my stance here. If real life is the benchmark for the sim/HD, then HD can never be wrong because anything can happen in real life. Real life isn't a justification for everything, especially when there's no "engine" running real life with set parameters.
5/12/2010 1:08 PM
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I like to think colonels wanted to be an architect growing up and would design amazing buildings in a computer simulation. Only problem was in his simulator it was always 80 degrees and sunny so no extreme weather ever happened and when the buildings were tested in simulators with high winds and real weather they collapsed.

His revolutionary designs were rejected by bigtime companies and his life shattered as everything he worked for was destroyed by extremes in a simulation.

Thus today he takes out his rage on any simulation with extremes.
5/12/2010 3:10 PM
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Whatever, COlonels. Everybody else with a pulse can see that you are taking a rather silly stance where anything that disproves you disliking a particular result can be ignored. If it can happen in real life, then it isn't unreasonable that it happen in a simulation and it makes it blatantly obvious that it is NOT "Ridiculous' and 'impossible' however much you, Coonels19, want it to be.
5/12/2010 3:46 PM
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how does HD account for real life factors such as momentum, cold/hot streaks, partial (but not revealed) injuries and background history?
5/12/2010 6:04 PM
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anyone who takes the hard line either way is being ridiculous, i think. its trivial to see why real life should be more random - the above are just some of many examples. on the flip side, if real life was not a basis for this game, a starting point for comparison, then this wouldn't be a basketball simulation. it would be a, some figment of some guy's imagination simulation, like plenty of other games. but thats not what this is supposed to be...
5/12/2010 6:10 PM
kmasonbx
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I actually get colonels point, he's actually not somebody who has ever said that this game should reflect real life as far as the way games are simulated. I disagree, I like the randomness, sometimes you have unexplicable losses just like in real life. If there wasn't that randomness it would be pretty boring because every time you played a worse team you would win.
5/12/2010 6:33 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by vandydave on 5/12/2010how does HD account for real life factors such as momentum, cold/hot streaks, partial (but not revealed) injuries and background history?

random numbers.
5/12/2010 7:27 PM
a_in_the_b
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MOreover there are plenty of statistical stiudies showing that "Hot streaks' and 'cold streaks' don't exist save at the statistical randomness level you would expect. And. . as above.

5/12/2010 7:37 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By kmasonbx on 5/12/2010
I actually get colonels point, he's actually not somebody who has ever said that this game should reflect real life as far as the way games are simulated. The rest of what you said proves that you don't get my point...all games NEED randomness to operate, period...what I'm saying is, just because it happened in real life doesn't automatically justify the occurence in the sim and consequently suggests that everything is right and ok.I disagree, I like the randomness, sometimes you have unexplicable losses just like in real life. If there wasn't that randomness it would be pretty boring because every time you played a worse team you would win.

5/12/2010 8:29 PM
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You're pretty much on an island on this one, brother.

I suppose it's a philosophical disagreement, so you're certainly entitled to your position. That said, I'm the one who consistently plays the "what's good for HD?" card over real life, and even I totally disagree with you.

If a result could and does fairly reasonably happen in real life, then I don't really have a problem with it. (And that doesn't mean you should have to go back to UVA-Chaminade to explain it.)

But once again, most of the the results you think are totally crazy are in fact not that crazy. You would help yourself immensely if you went back and audited a probability and stats course at Oakland U.
5/12/2010 8:37 PM
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