I looked at a bunch of worlds and couldn't find any players that produce Adam Dunn-like numbers.

There have been several players like him in real baseball. Harmon Killebrew, Darrell Evans, Jason Giambi (Yankee years) are the first that come to my mind.

Sluggers that, in their prime, average 35+ HR, 110+ BB, 125+ SO, with an AVE in the .250 range. Or lower.

It seems that very high Batting Eye, very high Power, and very low Contact with some vRHP/vLHP value should create this kind of player.

Can anybody post an example of a player like this?

I'm trying to figure out if there is any value in high Eye, high Power, low Contact players.

Thanks.

"http://www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=2461386"

Not sure 20 and 24 homers are what he's looking at. I had some guys like that. .240, 40 100 with a ton of strikeouts. Not lately though.

I'm not really sure it's possible to consistently have a player like that in HBD. Wouldn't walks skew upward concurrently with batting eye rating, while strikeouts would skew downward?

The closest guy I had was Jesus Santiago. he batted closer t0 .270 and hit 50_ in his prime striking out 150+



www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=224148

Vic Andujar is a reasonable comparison.

For his career: .239 average but a .327 OBP due to a high walk rate. .500 SLG (for a .261 ISO) and 72 home runs (with only 28 doubles) in 964 ABs, which would come out to 40+ in a full season. He seemed to get less effective once the "steroid fix" hit though, so I didn't risk signing him long-term.

But the main thing is just that dudes don't walk that much in HBD. In No Quitters, the season just finished and only 4 guys cleared 90 walks. Contrast that to MLB which had 17 guys clear that in '09.

Walks have been scaled back since the early days of HBD. The single season walk records for all three of my worlds came in either seasons 1 or 2.

It's funny with the walks. One of my best hitters who usually walk 60 times a season, when they had the 1st home run update, he walked 100.

Samuel Kennedy

He's a similar player.

I spent a little more time looking around. As far as I can see, the answer is such a player currently isn't possible. Or at leat not being created.

HBD players that walk a lot don't walk as much as real-life baseball players who walk a a lot.

It seems this is something to lobby WIS to correct. But I'd be curious to hear if there are reasons it works this way. There are other places HBD doesn't exactly match real-life. I'm wondering if there is a reason for this one.

Check how many intentional walks your .340/40 HR hitters are issued. I'm sure a fair amount of the answer lies right there in the manager settings.

Also, Control for pitchers is more of a priority in WIS than it is in MLB. Daniel Cabrera made 155 starts in the majors, which is probably about 155 more than he'd make in a typical HBD world.

I have found that very high EYE, very low CONTACT players don't walk enough to provide Adam Dunn style results.

[URL=http://www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=673290]Will Rivers[/URL]

In season 2 Rivers hit homeruns and struckout at a rate right in line with Dunn's career numbers, striking out in 26% of plate appearances and hitting homeruns in 6% of his plate appearances, but even with a 92 EYE, his walk rate was about half of Dunn's career walk rate.

http://www.whatifsports.com/hbd/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=673290

Maybe that will work...

Not quite the strikeouts that Dunn puts up but this is as close as I have.

http://www.whatifsports.com/HBD/Pages/Popups/PlayerProfile.aspx?pid=1386083