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opie100
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How often is each pitch supposedly used? Is it a sliding % scale, like P1-30%, P2-25%, P3-20%, P4-15%, P5-10%?
6/9/2010 11:45 PM
strikeout26
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The game isnt simmed with individual pitches.
6/9/2010 11:47 PM
opie100
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I know that each at bat isn't simulated a pitch at a time, but I presume that P1-P5 are utilized with weighting of some kind so I'm looking for more info on that.
6/10/2010 9:52 AM
MikeT23
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ADMIN said there was a slight difference in the order. They didn't say exactly and I'd be shocked if anyone claimed they knew the exact difference. I don't think the OP's question is answerable.
6/10/2010 10:09 AM
dedelman
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Mike-- I remember it slightly differently; my memory is that P1-P5 are actually irrelevant but what's relevant is the best pitch. So if P4 is better than P2 it will be used more, and just as much as if the designations of P2 and P4 were reversed. But I'm working off my usual faulty memory here.
6/10/2010 12:02 PM
dyoungquist
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A catcher's pitch calling ratings plays a factor as well but I do not think anyone knows how they work together exactly.
6/10/2010 12:16 PM
schedule1
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they've said that P1 is slightly more important, if i recall.
6/10/2010 12:43 PM
schuyler101
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Quote: Originally posted by dedelman on 6/10/2010Mike-- I remember it slightly differently; my memory is that P1-P5 are actually irrelevant but what's relevant is the best pitch.  So if P4 is better than P2 it will be used more, and just as much as if the designations of P2 and P4 were reversed.  But I'm working off my usual faulty memory here.

+1

they've stated the order is irrelevant, the pitches are ranked from highest to lowest to find their relative weight towards the outcome of atbats
6/10/2010 2:24 PM
opie100
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Thanks guys - that's what I'm looking for. Any conjecture as to the relative weighting? I presume a three-pitch pitcher with one bad pitch is worse off then a four-pitch pitcher with one bad pitch.
6/10/2010 2:44 PM
MikeT23
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Well, it appears me and schedule remember one thing while two of you remember it differently.

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if all of us recall it correctly while CS has stated two different things. I recall it from Dev Chat if anyone cares to dig around.
6/10/2010 3:00 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by opie100 on 6/10/2010Thanks guys - that's what I'm looking for. Any conjecture as to the relative weighting? I presume a three-pitch pitcher with one bad pitch is worse off then a four-pitch pitcher with one bad pitch.

Well, yes. Having 3 good pitches is better than having 2.
6/10/2010 3:01 PM
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On this topic, assuming it's some sort of weighting process, wouldn't a player with one pitch at 100 be very effective.  I assume there's nothing that takes into account how often a hitter sees the same pitch, so wouldn't constantly throwing a 100-rated pitch be better than one guy with three pitches at 90?  Or is there something that adds effectiveness based on the number of overal pitches?
10/14/2010 1:34 PM
tecwrg
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More pitches is better than less. 

So 90/90/90 would most likely be better than 100/90 (I've never seen a pitcher with less than 2 pitches).
10/14/2010 2:06 PM
isack24
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I'll take your word for it.  So any idea then how the pitches work?  It can't just be an average of the pitches with the best being throw more often, right?  It has to be something more.

10/14/2010 2:59 PM
jonas1102
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When I rank prospects for the draft, what I do is:

(Total/50)*(AVG/2.5)

So the 90/90/90 guy would be 194.4, and the 100/90 guy would be 144.4, and an 80/80/60 guy would be 129.07.

Not to say that I'm right, it's just what I do.
10/14/2010 3:46 PM
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