Where to start this prospect... Topic

Recently signed this IFA. TCruz

Question is, where should I start him.  he could probably pitch in long relief in the majors right now, but he needs to develop his stamina before he could start on a regular basis and his vR definently needs some development before he could become a solid starter, vs just a so-so long man

As an 18 year old, I'm thinking 3 years in the minors, then bring him up to the show after 20 games, though he may be ready after 2 years of seasoning.

My pitching coaches in low A is a 56/55 pitching/patience ratings
                                      In Hi  A is a 64/30
                                      in      AA is a 72/53

Obviously the AA guy is the best coach, does the high A coach's low patience hinder this guys development too much?  My low A team will stink, low A should be OK, AA should challenge for a deep run in the AA playoffs (though obviously I could move him up for those)  Does that make a difference?  My $16 mil IFA scouting buget says his patience should top out around 89.  Is there anything I can do to ensure that he gets as close to that as possible?  at an 89, he'd stand a chance of being willing to resign at the end of his first long term deal, otherwise, I'd have to go to the market and meet all other offers to get him back.  Always better to keep him around for cheaper if possible.  Would he be greatly hindered sitting in AAA for 2 years (and 20 days) if I put him in AA this year, and move him up to AAA next year, but decide it best to keep him in the minors for 1 more season of development.
12/8/2010 12:19 PM
If you plan on bring him up in three seasons, the answer is obvious.   HiA, AA, AAA, BL.
12/8/2010 12:30 PM
thanks, that's where I have him now.  Is there anyway to ensure the best improvement of his patience rating up to its potential?
12/8/2010 12:40 PM
It's just down to playing time and coaches at this point.     If your AA team makes the playoffs, move him up for that since that's where he'll be next season.  Just try to get him in games when he's 100%,
12/8/2010 12:42 PM

Does a player need to go threw all the levels of the farm league to develop to their potential?  Whats the best way to ensure us as GM's max out a players full potential?

12/8/2010 1:29 PM
Does a player need to go threw (sic) all the levels of the farm league to develop to their potential?

No.

Whats the best way to ensure us as GM's max out a players full potential?

Playing time, good coaches, timely promotions, and high medical/training to minimize risk of ratings loss due to injuries.
12/8/2010 1:35 PM
What about playing time for relievers?  Its easy to give a postion prospect nine innings, 144 games a year.  But what about a pitcher that has say 20-30 stamina that will only pitch 50 innings a year?  144 games is a lot more than 50 innings.  Would relievers typically not reach their potential ratings? 
12/8/2010 9:27 PM
Posted by a_ersberg on 12/8/2010 9:28:00 PM (view original):
What about playing time for relievers?  Its easy to give a postion prospect nine innings, 144 games a year.  But what about a pitcher that has say 20-30 stamina that will only pitch 50 innings a year?  144 games is a lot more than 50 innings.  Would relievers typically not reach their potential ratings? 
If his stamina is 20-30, unload him.
12/8/2010 11:35 PM
Wow.  Unload him?  You have three pitchers with 20-30 stamina. 
12/9/2010 8:47 AM
Use pitchers when they're 100%.    Maximize their playing time just like you would a position player.
12/9/2010 9:02 AM
Posted by a_ersberg on 12/8/2010 9:28:00 PM (view original):
What about playing time for relievers?  Its easy to give a postion prospect nine innings, 144 games a year.  But what about a pitcher that has say 20-30 stamina that will only pitch 50 innings a year?  144 games is a lot more than 50 innings.  Would relievers typically not reach their potential ratings? 
Thats just the nature of baseball.  Relief pitchers see fewer innings and games played than an everyday position player.  Play him as much as possible
12/9/2010 9:52 AM
What is the durablility with the 20to30 stamina pitcher? If durability is 60-80, you should have no problem getting innings. If durability is 30-40, those will have to be spotted more or have the pitch count reduced to prevent pitching them when tired.
12/9/2010 11:37 AM (edited)
Posted by taz21 on 12/8/2010 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Recently signed this IFA. TCruz

Question is, where should I start him.  he could probably pitch in long relief in the majors right now, but he needs to develop his stamina before he could start on a regular basis and his vR definently needs some development before he could become a solid starter, vs just a so-so long man

As an 18 year old, I'm thinking 3 years in the minors, then bring him up to the show after 20 games, though he may be ready after 2 years of seasoning.

My pitching coaches in low A is a 56/55 pitching/patience ratings
                                      In Hi  A is a 64/30
                                      in      AA is a 72/53

Obviously the AA guy is the best coach, does the high A coach's low patience hinder this guys development too much?  My low A team will stink, low A should be OK, AA should challenge for a deep run in the AA playoffs (though obviously I could move him up for those)  Does that make a difference?  My $16 mil IFA scouting buget says his patience should top out around 89.  Is there anything I can do to ensure that he gets as close to that as possible?  at an 89, he'd stand a chance of being willing to resign at the end of his first long term deal, otherwise, I'd have to go to the market and meet all other offers to get him back.  Always better to keep him around for cheaper if possible.  Would he be greatly hindered sitting in AAA for 2 years (and 20 days) if I put him in AA this year, and move him up to AAA next year, but decide it best to keep him in the minors for 1 more season of development.
His stamina isn't 29! It is his durability that is 29. I will refer to my original statement, If you have a starting pitcher with a 29 stamina, unload him!!
12/9/2010 7:13 PM
Posted by moosep on 12/9/2010 7:13:00 PM (view original):
Posted by taz21 on 12/8/2010 12:19:00 PM (view original):
Recently signed this IFA. TCruz

Question is, where should I start him.  he could probably pitch in long relief in the majors right now, but he needs to develop his stamina before he could start on a regular basis and his vR definently needs some development before he could become a solid starter, vs just a so-so long man

As an 18 year old, I'm thinking 3 years in the minors, then bring him up to the show after 20 games, though he may be ready after 2 years of seasoning.

My pitching coaches in low A is a 56/55 pitching/patience ratings
                                      In Hi  A is a 64/30
                                      in      AA is a 72/53

Obviously the AA guy is the best coach, does the high A coach's low patience hinder this guys development too much?  My low A team will stink, low A should be OK, AA should challenge for a deep run in the AA playoffs (though obviously I could move him up for those)  Does that make a difference?  My $16 mil IFA scouting buget says his patience should top out around 89.  Is there anything I can do to ensure that he gets as close to that as possible?  at an 89, he'd stand a chance of being willing to resign at the end of his first long term deal, otherwise, I'd have to go to the market and meet all other offers to get him back.  Always better to keep him around for cheaper if possible.  Would he be greatly hindered sitting in AAA for 2 years (and 20 days) if I put him in AA this year, and move him up to AAA next year, but decide it best to keep him in the minors for 1 more season of development.
His stamina isn't 29! It is his durability that is 29. I will refer to my original statement, If you have a starting pitcher with a 29 stamina, unload him!!
No one ever mentioned a starting pitcher with 29 stamina.
12/9/2010 9:46 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 12/8/2010 12:30:00 PM (view original):
If you plan on bring him up in three seasons, the answer is obvious.   HiA, AA, AAA, BL.
Just throwing this out there - if the AA coach is better, and could go deep into the playoffs, couldn't you go AA, AA, AAA, BL? or AA, AAA, AAA (40-man call-up), BL?
12/10/2010 9:24 AM
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