WTWD 1991 Prog. (26 teams) Need 1 Oakland A's Topic

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We are looking for an owner for the Oakland and Milwaukee franchises.  We are approaching the 1991 draft. Here are the original rules:

WTWD standing for Whatif..Things Were Different.
 

Note: This was the original league post
Basically, there would be no initial draft.  You would select a team from the 1985 season, and that would be your roster.  For players with split seasons between two clubs, the team that the individual had more PA's or IP with would get him.  (If you aren't sure...ask)

Now, obviously, some teams look better to draft based on their 1985 roster.  Well....the weaker clubs may have an advantage heading into one of the strongest drafts around (1986 is a pretty nice one!)...giving them a strong shot at building their team around Greg Maddux or Barry Bonds.  Secondly, the first 5 drafts will have an order based on how your team matches up against your real teams record.   So, if you had the Cards...I'd match your 87 record up against the real 87 Cards.  The better you do, the higher you draft.   This would be done until the 1991 draft, whereby I'd revert to the worst through first order with the first 3 picks randomized.  For ties between teams, ranking would be according to live games played, then head-to-head matchup. Also, all teams would need to make the 40 game live minimum, otherwise missing the playoffs and consideration for the top 3 picks.  NOTE: It was decided upon that ONLY the first 3 seasons of drafting would be based on comparing to the real life cubs.  So, starting with the 89 draft, we will revert to the worst to first style.

Other considerations:

  • there would be a DH in the AL
  • Alignment as close to real life as possible
  • teams not selected in the initial selection process would have their players added to a mini-draft based on the real-life worst to first (order as presented at this link 1985 Standings).  If there is strong interest, we can try to fill all teams and use the same alignment as in real-life...and then when MLB expanded..we expand.  ...and my feeling over that is the new expansion clubs would get the EXACT players that they had in real-life.  So, current clubs would have to plan accordingly as they would lose those players in those expansion years.  NOTE: This went up for vote in our forum.  It appears that we will just go with an expansion draft very similar to what happened in real life.
  • 40 game live min.
  • 6/4 below average AAA (NOTE: this has since been changed to 12/8 below average)
  • UNLIMITED keepers
  • REAL team names
  • Trading..full trading, but only draft picks up to one year in advance (ie. the next draft)
9/24/2011 12:40 PM (edited)
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St Louis Cards(TAKEN)
Busch Stadium (St. Louis Cardinals: 1966-2005)
Name Season Franchise Pos Salary
Tim Belcher 1990 Los Angeles Dodgers SP $3,413,836
Jose Dejesus 1990 Philadelphia Phillies SP $3,080,990
Jose Mesa 1990 Baltimore Orioles SP $1,086,929
Jeff M. Robinson 1990 Detroit Tigers SP $2,275,924
John Tudor 1990 St. Louis Cardinals SP $4,215,666
Rob Dibble 1990 Cincinnati Reds RP $4,158,540
Xavier Hernandez 1990 Houston Astros RP $1,024,713
Ricky Horton 1990 St. Louis Cardinals RP $484,712
Derek Lilliquist 1990 Atlanta Braves RP $1,938,322
Ken Patterson 1990 Chicago White Sox RP $1,265,241
Scott Radinsky 1990 Chicago White Sox RP $1,277,123
Jeff D. Robinson 1990 New York Yankees RP $1,824,572
Cliff Young 1990 California Angels RP $367,382
Brian Harper 1990 Minnesota Twins C $4,036,235
B.J. Surhoff 1990 Milwaukee Brewers C $3,145,335
Jack Clark 1990 San Diego Padres 1B $3,653,011
Tom Herr 1990 New York Mets 2B $3,210,227
Craig Grebeck 1990 Chicago White Sox 3B $314,756
Terry Pendleton 1990 St. Louis Cardinals 3B $2,596,886
Ozzie Smith 1990 St. Louis Cardinals SS $3,146,931
Vince Coleman 1990 St. Louis Cardinals OF $3,748,721
Jack Daugherty 1990 Texas Rangers OF $1,889,503
Rex Hudler 1990 Montreal Expos OF $1,523,040
Willie McGee 1990 St. Louis Cardinals OF $5,142,025
Andy Van Slyke 1990 Pittsburgh Pirates OF $4,577,523
Active Roster Total Salary: $63,398,143

Gary Varsho is also the property of the Cardinals
9/20/2011 8:46 PM (edited)
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Milwaukee Brewers
County Stadium (Milwaukee Brewers: 1970-2000)
Name Season Franchise Pos Salary
Kevin Appier 1990 Kansas City Royals SP $4,423,009
Jack Armstrong 1990 Cincinnati Reds SP $4,088,872
Tom Candiotti 1990 Cleveland Indians SP $4,063,544
Mark Gardner 1990 Montreal Expos SP $3,621,304
Jack McDowell 1990 Chicago White Sox SP $4,522,715
Danny Darwin 1990 Houston Astros RP $4,828,878
Wes Gardner 1990 Boston Red Sox RP $1,458,765
Cecilio Guante 1990 Cleveland Indians RP $848,293
Edwin Nunez 1990 Detroit Tigers RP $2,187,833
Rich Gedman 1990 Houston Astros C $1,486,576
John Russell 1990 Texas Rangers C $706,203
Tommy Gregg 1990 Atlanta Braves 1B $1,239,992
Jim Gantner 1990 Milwaukee Brewers 2B $1,946,523
Gary Sheffield 1990 Milwaukee Brewers 3B $3,752,756
Dave Clark 1990 Chicago Cubs OF $1,005,122
Doug Dascenzo 1990 Chicago Cubs OF $1,352,027
Darryl Hamilton 1990 Milwaukee Brewers OF $901,912
Active Roster Total Salary: $44,034,324
Scott Bailes 1990 California Angels RP $259,214
Gary Carter 1990 San Francisco Giants C $1,457,412
Carlos Martinez 1990 Chicago White Sox 1B $1,005,134
Paul Molitor 1990 Milwaukee Brewers 2B $4,591,575
Mark Lemke 1990 Atlanta Braves 3B $935,994
Omar Vizquel 1990 Seattle Mariners SS $1,503,507
Bernard Gilkey 1990 St. Louis Cardinals OF $725,113
Randy Ready 1990 Philadelphia Phillies OF $1,360,266

Todd Worrell P and Kirt Manwaring C are also the property of the Brewers.
9/11/2011 3:52 PM (edited)
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no reason these teams shouldnt be swiped up. these are all good rosters. Cmon guys this is a good one to get your feet wet in your 1st progressive league. All these teams have a win now potential.
9/20/2011 5:45 AM
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Ill take the cardinals

9/20/2011 6:09 PM
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Sweet!  I'll add you to our private forum.
9/20/2011 8:43 PM
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Welcome spoorts.  Jays are now taken.
9/22/2011 6:40 AM
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With no response from 2 owners, we may have 2 other openings:

'90 Detroit Tigers (TAKEN)
Tiger Stadium (Detroit Tigers: 1961-1999)
Name Season Franchise Pos Salary
Chris Bosio 1990 Milwaukee Brewers SP $2,689,566
Jack Morris 1990 Detroit Tigers SP $5,576,657
Frank Tanana 1990 Detroit Tigers SP $2,871,729
Walt Terrell 1990 Detroit Tigers SP $2,376,399
Juan Berenguer 1990 Minnesota Twins RP $2,078,894
Tim Layana 1990 Cincinnati Reds RP $1,497,410
Randy Myers 1990 Cincinnati Reds RP $2,695,543
Eric Plunk 1990 New York Yankees RP $1,568,554
Duane Ward 1990 Toronto Blue Jays RP $3,726,721
Terry Kennedy 1990 San Francisco Giants C $2,011,335
Lance Parrish 1990 California Angels C $4,676,713
Jeff Manto 1990 Cleveland Indians 1B $430,921
Hal Morris 1990 Cincinnati Reds 1B $2,629,818
Lou Whitaker 1990 Detroit Tigers 2B $4,546,198
Alan Trammell 1990 Detroit Tigers SS $5,812,693
Milt Cuyler 1990 Detroit Tigers OF $379,829
Active Roster Total Salary: $47,368,980
Jeff Innis 1990 New York Mets RP $482,067
Dale Mohorcic 1990 Montreal Expos RP $766,178
Mike Sharperson 1990 Los Angeles Dodgers 3B $2,496,303
Brian Giles 1990 Seattle Mariners SS $562,260
Greg Briley 1990 Seattle Mariners OF $1,838,082
Kirk Gibson 1990 Los Angeles Dodgers OF $2,968,243
Tracy Jones 1990 Seattle Mariners OF $1,000,480
Rick Leach 1990 San Francisco Giants OF $1,100,323
Gary Ward 1990 Detroit Tigers OF $1,830,219
9/28/2011 6:50 AM (edited)
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Oakland A's
Oakland Coliseum (Oakland Athletics: 1968-2000)
Name Season Franchise Pos Salary
Allan Anderson 1990 Minnesota Twins SP $3,367,398
Scott Erickson 1990 Minnesota Twins SP $2,166,311
Ken Howell 1990 Philadelphia Phillies SP $1,865,841
Jose Rijo 1990 Cincinnati Reds SP $5,856,271
Kevin Tapani 1990 Minnesota Twins SP $3,669,556
Curt Young 1990 Oakland Athletics SP $2,051,131
Jay Howell 1990 Los Angeles Dodgers RP $1,436,906
Doug Jones 1990 Cleveland Indians RP $2,533,967
Dennis Lamp 1990 Boston Red Sox RP $1,956,990
Scott Ruskin 1990 Pittsburgh Pirates RP $1,480,225
Mike Heath 1990 Detroit Tigers C $2,460,394
Mickey Tettleton 1990 Baltimore Orioles C $3,653,290
Rafael Palmeiro 1990 Texas Rangers 1B $4,696,299
Harold Reynolds 1990 Seattle Mariners 2B $4,743,456
Carney Lansford 1990 Oakland Athletics 3B $3,126,989
Garry Templeton 1990 San Diego Padres SS $2,614,428
Daryl Boston 1990 New York Mets OF $2,600,029
Phil Bradley 1990 Baltimore Orioles OF $2,873,559
Jose Canseco 1990 Oakland Athletics OF $5,214,096
Gene Larkin 1990 Minnesota Twins OF $2,346,178
Active Roster Total Salary: $61,713,314
Bill Wegman 1990 Milwaukee Brewers SP $300,981
Jeff Parrett 1990 Philadelphia Phillies RP $1,677,653
Luis Quinones 1990 Cincinnati Reds 3B $682,882
Rick Schu 1990 California Angels 3B $799,544
Jay Buhner 1990 Seattle Mariners OF $1,092,389
9/28/2011 6:50 AM (edited)
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This league is going to start soon.  Time to jump in on the only 26 team live progressive out there
9/24/2011 8:01 AM
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I will give the Tigers a shot, just be patient with me because I havent done a progressive yet
9/24/2011 11:10 AM
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Posted by 9ookoloo on 9/24/2011 11:10:00 AM (view original):
I will give the Tigers a shot, just be patient with me because I havent done a progressive yet
Fantastic..and no problem!  I have added you to our private forum where you can look around and post your keepers (see examples of others in the keeper thread)
9/24/2011 12:39 PM
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I can't believe no one will take a shot at the Brewers.  If I wasn't already in the same division I'd take a shot with that roster.
9/28/2011 6:09 AM
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soooo close to filling.  24 keeper lists in, draft board ready to go except for these 2 teams....there must be someone!
9/28/2011 6:01 PM
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oakland is stacked too....sick offense
10/2/2011 9:33 AM
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