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46 dukenilnil 24-6 11-3 10-2 3-1 16-0   45 C+ Conf Champion
CT Champion
NT (1st Round)
45 dukenilnil 21-9 9-5 9-3 3-1 14-2   90 C CT Champion
NT (1st Round)
44 dukenilnil 22-8 12-5 7-2 3-1 12-4   77 C- CT Champion
NT (1st Round)
43 dukenilnil 20-8 11-2 8-5 1-1 13-3   136 D Conf Champion
42 Sim AI 16-11 9-5 7-5 0-1 10-6   167 D  
41 Sim AI 13-15 6-7 6-7 1-1 8-8   215 D-  
40 Sim AI 5-22 5-10 0-11 0-1 2-14   313 D-  

LA VERNE


Season 43: James Madison 
20-8 (overall)/13-3 (conf), RPI: 136


Regular Season Conference Champion


Season 38: La Verne 
21-9 (overall)/11-5 (conf), RPI: 15


National Tournament At-large Bid
National Tournament - 2nd Round


Season 37: La Verne #1
31-4 (overall)/13-3 (conf), RPI: 1


Regular Season Conference Champion
Conference Tournament Champion
National Champion
National Coach of the Year

Season 36: La Verne #1
30-4 (overall)/15-1 (conf), RPI: 1


Regular Season Conference Champion
National Tournament At-large Bid
National Champion
Conference Coach of the Year


Season 35: La Verne #2
29-6 (overall)/13-3 (conf), RPI: 3


National Tournament At-large Bid
National Tournament - Championship Game


Season 34: Roanoke 
20-10 (overall)/14-2 (conf), RPI: 50


National Tournament At-large Bid
National Tournament - 1st Round


IN
 GENERAL:

Hoops Dynasty
Full Seasons: 54
Record
1250-418 (0.749)
Conference Championships
33
National Championships
2


3/3/2012 2:15 AM
Which means you can have any DI job there is except the 6 Big 6 openings?
3/3/2012 2:29 AM
So is the issue that you think you should be qualified for the Big 6 jobs? Or that every job besides them are listed as step backwards?
3/3/2012 3:23 AM
BCS gigs love the loyalty. My guess is your 1 season (move) - 4 seasons (move) - 4 seasons (move) is what's holding you back. Stay in one spot and continue your success
3/3/2012 3:57 AM
Check out my Toledo team in Knight...I just moved up to B- after 3 straight NT appearances.  Now I'm qualified for 2 big-6 schools.  Duke00, my guess is that if you win the CT next year, you'll be B- and therefore qualified for a few big-6 schools
3/3/2012 6:17 AM
Posted by stinenavy on 3/3/2012 3:23:00 AM (view original):
So is the issue that you think you should be qualified for the Big 6 jobs? Or that every job besides them are listed as step backwards?
I have an A+ loyalty and an A+ rep
3/3/2012 9:03 AM
Posted by stinenavy on 3/3/2012 3:23:00 AM (view original):
So is the issue that you think you should be qualified for the Big 6 jobs? Or that every job besides them are listed as step backwards?
The problem is both.   I should have some lateral and some big 6 opening.  It is ridiculous to say that hundreds of openings are a step backward and not have any that are a step forward from a school that isn't Big 6.  Either I am doing so well that everything is a step backward but a few (meaning I should qualify for the best jobs) or I am only doing pretty good in which case a lot of the programs should be viewed as similar to me.

The one that annoys me obviously is the lack of Big 6, but I think the failure to offer Big 6 is highlighted as a problem when everything else is a step backward.

WIS can sit there and tell me it's working the way it is meant to, but if so, this is sorry.  If we are taking into account longer histories, I have 2 National Championships in my 10 year history, that should count for a lot. Yes they are D3, but they show a great coaching ability.  Follow that up with taking a team is at the lowest prestige and having them qualify for 3 straight national tournaments, I'm sorry, I should be the hottest coaching prospect there is.   I've taken a school that hadn't been to the NT in almost 15 years and took them to 3 straight.  I also beat 4 human coached big 6 teams last year (5 including pre-season).   

Worst of all, the Virginia Tech job is the same prestige (C+) as my current JMU team and they aren't even a keep looking or a long shot, but a not-qualified.
3/3/2012 9:15 AM
I know everyone hates these WIS sucks e-mails, but I think I have the history and reputation that if I (and other long term, successful coaches) think there are problems, WIS should want to hear from us.
I have played 1700 games and won 75% of them, including the national titles.  Yes, there are a number of coaches with better records, but at the risk of sounding immodest, my record puts me in the top 20% of WIS.  

3/3/2012 9:20 AM
Yeah, the longevity requirements to get into the top level of D1 is pretty long.  You could always move to a Utah/UNLV/Memphis type of 2nd tier school that is a step up from JMU.
3/3/2012 9:31 AM
Posted by reinsel on 3/3/2012 9:31:00 AM (view original):
Yeah, the longevity requirements to get into the top level of D1 is pretty long.  You could always move to a Utah/UNLV/Memphis type of 2nd tier school that is a step up from JMU.
I would be less miffed if they were, but that is part of the problem, they are a step BACKWARDS.  That means if I leave to go to one of the higher mid-tier prestige schools, my loyalty takes a hit.  As I said, Bogus.
3/3/2012 9:45 AM
You're getting way too caught up in the terminology from Simmy -- if there's a step backwards job that you like and it's a place you'd rather be, then take it. Simple as that. So that part of the issue is solved. Mildly annoying at absolute worst, and even that's an overstatement imho, as the jobs are yours if you want them. Your loyalty may take a bit of a hit, but I see that as a non-issue, as once you've proven yourself at the new school it'll be at a point where you can move up to the Big 6.

So then it really boils down to the big six jobs, and the issue there is twofold -- you don't have enough DI experience, and the experience that you have, while solid, is nothing special. You are literally in an all-sim conference that you're beating up on. You beat one human coached team with a winning record all season, and even they were 15-13. You have yet to win a single postseason game in DI. No offense because I know that you're a very good coach, but what's happened the last couple seasons just isn't that impressive.

I guess it's debatable and some might feel that you deserve a Big 6 job, I just wouldn't be one of them. Regardless, I think to characterize it as a travesty/failure of the system/something worth quitting over -- I think that's hugely over-the-top and misguided, and basically sort of misunderstanding how things work.

3/3/2012 10:14 AM
And you jumped ship from another D3 school to go to LaVerne, a program that uglyskunk had made into the top D3 program in any world.

So yeah, you still have to win the titles, they're not handed to you. But you won in your second and third seasons -- certainly the first of those were with ugly's recruits starting for the most part, and some of the second one as well. But you jumped ship from your program and into a gold mine. That's fine, you're allowed to do that ... but if you're going to complain this loudly, I think it deserves a closer look at what the situation here really is.
3/3/2012 10:25 AM
Um, upon closer look you have won the CT in the past three seasons in the CAA while there have been no other human coaches in the conference during that time. None. In four seasons. So you have proven you are indeed good at beating up on Sim AI in D1. You went 17-0 against Sim AI this season; 4-4 against humans, plus 0-2 against oldresorter. Of the four humans you beat, none made it to the NT. You did not win a game against a top 25 team. You have not won any D1 NT games. You have had no players drafted. And you think you should be rewarded with not only a Big 6 team, but an ACC team in Virginia Tech? Really?
3/3/2012 1:06 PM (edited)
By the way, the A10 and Horizon conferences in Knight each have at least eight human coaches. I would suggest getting some additional D1 experience in a conference like that prior to taking a Big 6 team.
3/3/2012 1:10 PM
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