Two teams, same world, same division Topic

What would you do if you saw it, and it was obvious?  Say the usernames are uniquename and uniquename2.  The schools are in the same world, same division, <1000 miles apart, and schedule each other in non-conference play.

Let it slide?  Report it?  Call the guy out here or on the CC?
3/12/2012 12:16 PM
I think the official position that WIS took some time ago was that it was okay so long as the two schools were not in the same region - no clear definition, but I think it means they need to be pretty darn far apart.

AND of course one must not engage in any activity that is collusive or contrary to fair play

my opinion would be that scheduling each other is inappropriate
3/12/2012 12:28 PM
As someone who has 2 teams in the same world (D3 vs. D2, Virginia vs. Hawaii), I think that's shady...assuming it is the same owner.  Could it be a father/son type thing?  A public shunning shouldn't happen unless you know for sure it actually is the same coach, IMO.  I think I'd report it.
3/12/2012 12:28 PM
It's kind of a difficult issue. With FSS having two teams can really help coaches get a leg up. That said some coaches had teams in the same region long before potential was implemented, so, you can't get upset over that. Even coaches with two teams that play it safe and buy FSS for every state they recruit for still have an advantage because initially scouting one state would let them know if it's worthwhile to scout that state with the other team. That said it's not that big ideal unless it's blatant collusion (i.e. a team from the east coast has 4 players from the west coast and another coach from west coast has 4 players from east coast). Even those situations can be hard to tell though because some coaches recruit less regionally than others. 
3/12/2012 12:41 PM
They should not be allowed to schedule each other. I would say something to seble about it.
3/12/2012 12:42 PM
Looking at the teams, they're not recruiting suspiciously.  They don't have any players from each other's states, and in fact they've been recruiting in nearly opposite directions from their home states.  For all I know the scheduling thing is innocent fun, and he's competing hard against himself.  It's late in non-con, so the temptation to throw it one way or the other might be there, but I dunno.

I'm inclined to let it slide, though that's not set in stone.  It's an interesting conversation to read y'all's thoughts on, though.  So keep going if you like.
3/12/2012 12:53 PM
i know a coach that did that in one of my conferences two or three seasons back. the rest of us were peeved bc the only team he scheduled in non con was his other team - and the other team was the much stronger team. the balance of the teams that ended up on the schedule (obviously, all sims) made for a pretty terrible sos / rpi which negatively affected the rest of us.
3/12/2012 12:58 PM
Why would a coach schedule himself?  Even winning against a medicore team is better than losing.
3/12/2012 1:02 PM
I honestly don't think it's right to have two teams in the same world.  Even in different divisions or regions, there are still recruiting advantages that could be gained.

Now, I also realize it would be nearly impossible to police this, so I try not to think or worry about it.
3/12/2012 1:48 PM
let it slide, who cares?  I've used a second team to "cheat" as far as FSS goes, but that's not even a big deal...yeah it's weird but I don't see how it hurts the game...it also might not be the same guy...if some guy creates colonels18 or coIonels19 or colonels20...I have no control over that
3/12/2012 1:51 PM
About a year ago, I brought it to seble's attention of a coach with 5 teams in the same world, in the same level (the coach told me about it via sitemail). Those teams also FSS shared with them recruiting players from the same states. Seble didn't care. 
3/12/2012 1:55 PM
Posted by girt25 on 3/12/2012 12:42:00 PM (view original):
They should not be allowed to schedule each other. I would say something to seble about it.
really? i have never played myself, ive had 2 teams in the same division many times (although we did play in exh). i know some coaches do it for fun - to see how their teams stack up against each other - but it seems to me strictly a negative thing. unless u suck i guess, i mean, i would not want to win 1/2 games. i guess i really don't see the harm in it. 
3/12/2012 1:56 PM
Posted by colonels19 on 3/12/2012 1:51:00 PM (view original):
let it slide, who cares?  I've used a second team to "cheat" as far as FSS goes, but that's not even a big deal...yeah it's weird but I don't see how it hurts the game...it also might not be the same guy...if some guy creates colonels18 or coIonels19 or colonels20...I have no control over that
I routinely spend 50-60% of my recruiting budget in D3 to scout states (there, the cat is out of the bag). I would love to have an additional 6k to battle other teams in D3. 
3/12/2012 1:57 PM
Posted by tianyi7886 on 3/12/2012 1:56:00 PM (view original):
About a year ago, I brought it to seble's attention of a coach with 5 teams in the same world, in the same level (the coach told me about it via sitemail). Those teams also FSS shared with them recruiting players from the same states. Seble didn't care. 
That is seriously disappointing to hear.
3/12/2012 2:00 PM
Posted by tianyi7886 on 3/12/2012 1:56:00 PM (view original):
About a year ago, I brought it to seble's attention of a coach with 5 teams in the same world, in the same level (the coach told me about it via sitemail). Those teams also FSS shared with them recruiting players from the same states. Seble didn't care. 
they admitted to FSS sharing too? that is really messed up. are you sure you got seble, not just a CS drone?
3/12/2012 2:02 PM
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