Does it seem like you can just plug in anyone, including guys with no reb, at SF and they will automatiocally grab 3 rpg?

If how rebounding is determined is done so with an emphasis on position over actual reb, I think that needs to be addressed.

My 14 REB SF only averages 1.8.

I have started a 1 REB SG at SF most of the year; he is averaging 1.5 reb/game, though I do tend to play -1/-2 to help offset this.  He does have 52 ATH/35 SPD.

Used a 6 Reb PG at the 3 most of the season and he averaged 1.5 rpg.  Data points = data points +1

ike, didn't mr. 1 shot blocking have lowish Reb?  How many rpg did he average at the 3?

Maybe it's just my guys and the guys I play against.

Mr 1 blk, Scott Cadet, also had 1 reb.  He averaged 2.0 rpg for his career, at 20 mpg. 

http://whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerHistory/Default.aspx?pid=1927806

Then there's my current "SF," Corey Richards, who is averaging 3.7 rpg in 28 mpg, with a 26 reb.

http://whatifsports.com/hd/PlayerProfile/Stats.aspx?tid=3795&pid=2090332

Even at 2.0 rpg, that seems high for a guy with 1 reb.  But maybe it's an anomaly with my guys.

The 2 guys on my teams playing SF with 17-20 ratings in RBs have both been pulling down about 1.5-2 rebounds a game each season. I think that's about right. The 1 rating guy averaging 2.0 - that sounds a little off.

To be fair Cadet had 90+ Ath and Def (helps with Def rebounding I think?) to go along with the 1 Reb.  Richards is definitely averaging more than I would expect, though.

3.7 doesn't strike me as that high for a guy with 62 ath, 76 spd, and 93 ST, playing over 28 mins a game on a team that runs up tempo a lot

I don't believe def or spd plays a role in rebounding.

From the last developer chat: 

Other than REB, ATH and IQ, what goes into the equation of who gets a REBOUND? (Trentonjoe - Hall of Famer - 3:01 PM)

That's essentially it, other than things like fatigue and health.

 

So then that leaves a 62 ath and 27 reb grabbing 3.7 rpg.  Yeah, stam helps a little.  But that still seems high.  

And how much do we think ath plays a role?  Is it really enough that a 1 reb guy can average 2 per game?

I wonder how much positional weighting affects rebounds?

obviously if ur a interior player ur gonna be getting more chances at rebounds because ur closer to the basket. im sure the sim accounts for this.  now the ability to get those rebounds they have a chance at is another matter. so a sg with fantastic rebounding may get outrebounded on your team by a sf with average rebounding simply because the sf is in position more to get them and therefore has more chances at them. thats just how i think of it.

Are SFs and SGs really distinguishable based on what they do on the court as a result of the position itself?

Most SFs are longer than SGs, so they end up playing inside as a result of their low post offense or defense.  But I don't know that there is really a huge difference between SG and SF based solely on position.

Posted by isack24 on 6/26/2012 7:13:00 PM (view original):
Are SFs and SGs really distinguishable based on what they do on the court as a result of the position itself?

Most SFs are longer than SGs, so they end up playing inside as a result of their low post offense or defense.  But I don't know that there is really a huge difference between SG and SF based solely on position.

I think in RL a SF has much more responsibility to crash the defensive glass than a SG. Someone playing SG will normally have much more freedom to leak out to create a fast break situation. Also normally a coach will play someone at each position that is better suited to their task so the better rebounder will be playing SF most of the time.

Also in this game rebounding definitely does make a difference for stats. On my two teams (both D2) my SFs have 65 and 35 rebounding and are averaging 4.9 and 2.5 rebounding respectively. The guy that has 35 is the worst rebounding starting SF I have ever had and he is definitely averaging the lowest rebounding numbers I have ever gotten from a SF.

Posted by ike1024 on 6/26/2012 6:41:00 PM (view original):
I don't believe def or spd plays a role in rebounding.

From the last developer chat: 

Other than REB, ATH and IQ, what goes into the equation of who gets a REBOUND? (Trentonjoe - Hall of Famer - 3:01 PM)

That's essentially it, other than things like fatigue and health.

 

Good to know, not sure where I got that idea from.  I guess I was only thinking it was a small effect anyway.

Another point about the Reb totals is these guys aren't in a vacuum.  If you have multiple 90+ Reb bigs, there's probably fewer boards to go around for your SF and guards.  Then there's tempo, which defense you run, SOS, etc.  It's tough to isolate any one thing in this game.

Richards is still averaging more than I'd expect.  Another SG I have playing SF right now has similar Ath and Reb to Richards (granted much worse IQ as a FR), but he's averaging 1.6 rpg.