Posted by oldwarrior on 8/13/2012 11:38:00 AM (view original):
I also ran a few numbers comparing the Tark-GLV vs the Allen-Gulf South:
Over that most recent 10 season window
Gulf South had more NT wins
Gulf South had fewer NT losses
GLV had better success in the PIT
Gulf South brought home more tourney cash
Gulf South had a higher overall average prestige
Gulf South had a very slight edge in average RPI
Gulf South was playing about 30% of non-conf games vs sims, The GLV was playing about 60% against sims.
GLV had more NT champions, 3 vs. 1 for the Gulf South.
Looking at those resumes the only significant check in the column of the GLV is the NT championships. Of course that should be the biggest check but questionable if it outweighs the Gulf Souths accomplishments.
IMO, rating the GLV over the Gulf South is roughly the equivilent of saying the real life SEC has been the top conference in college basketball over the past decade.
i haven't run the dynasty list in a few seasons. until recently, and i consider long term dynasty to be of primary importance, no conference has come close to having an argument over the GLV. you guys have been great lately, so you may have us in the 5 year category now, and maybe even 10. id be shocked if you passed us in the 20.
again, the rating system i use merely rates teams using my team dynasty ranking (feel free to show me and short comings, i would be surprised if there were any notable ones) and then combines them. the ONLY modification i put in place, i actually put in intentionally to hold BACK the mighty GLV. i wrote this when i had 5 titles/7 years at SIUE, and felt it was unfair to count a conference as great because a single team was so good. rails' conference when he was at west chester was not that great, but if you counted his team at full value, its one of the top ones in the period. so i intentionally knock down the importance of high end teams. i forget how exactly, but that was the only modification i made.
your SEC example is totally ridiculous though. of the ~300 d2 conferences in HD, the GLV has been #1 at least 80% of the time in the last 3 real years, and arguably much more than 80%. after this season in tark, ill re-run the rankings, and we can see how it looks. NT wins/losses is not enough of an indicator, which is roughly the same as tourney cash - deeper runs count more heavily in my rankings, as they should (in my opinion). that is really the one objection you can make - ive always felt a conference that sends lots of teams that make it no where (big east, as of late), can't claim to be the best. maybe some disagree? who knows where we'd rank this time around, its nice to finally have a conference who could contend we are #1... finally...