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Just wondering would two seasons of 29-1 (NT 1st round) with around a top 30 expected RPI finish be enough to make the jump to a Big 6 job.  I just finished Tark like that and next season I probably will go around 29-1 again I don't know if my RPI will be as good though.
10/19/2015 2:27 AM
It definitely could be, looking at Tark and what is open now I would think you would be eligible for the following: 

Fresno State (C Prestige)
Iowa State (C+ Prestige) I think it would need to drop to C for you to have a chance. 

A win in the NT would go a long way, but it is hard to project a whole season ahead. I think the Big 6 squad would need to be D+, C- or C prestige for you to have a chance. I am a little concerned that you started at a D-. not sure if that will end up hurting you. 
10/19/2015 8:04 AM
Just as a point of reference, I was "qualified" last season for C- VA Tech and I'm in D-2 with no D-1 experience on this account. Seems like the prestige of the school matters more than the conference itself for being qualified.
10/19/2015 10:21 AM
Posted by jaxorbetter on 10/19/2015 10:21:00 AM (view original):
Just as a point of reference, I was "qualified" last season for C- VA Tech and I'm in D-2 with no D-1 experience on this account. Seems like the prestige of the school matters more than the conference itself for being qualified.
I am pretty sure it is a combination of the Baseline Prestige and the Current Prestige of the school.  Not necessarily the Conference.  I am sure they likely also have some individualism for some schools (ie, Kentucky, Kansas, UCLA are harder to get than other schools, etc.)
10/19/2015 11:13 AM
CS insists baseline and current prestige don't matter in the D1 jobs process.

I'd be surprised if you qualified for a big 6 with your resume. Winning a NT game speeds eligibility up pretty quickly, fwiw.
10/19/2015 1:26 PM
You are looking at the wrong things.  I qualified to jump from UAB to NC State in Wooden.  Never made the NT in 5 seasons.  Fortunately, NC State has been unspeakably bad for many seasons.   So, it is possible to jump from D3 to D1 and then jump to a Big 6 positions 5 seasons later.

The thing holding you back will not be prestige (quit thinking about it), but, after only 3 seasons at Yale, loyalty.   I would hope that, if Yale gets to the NT again or wins >20 games next season, that you would be eligible to jump to a truly devastated program similar to this one.   

Looking at what I walked into...maybe I should have waited another season or two to get something better, but here I am.
10/19/2015 1:43 PM
A+/A+ rep/loyalty already if that helps and I will not be worse than like 5 losses and a PI bid which is worst case scenario.  Which would give me 4 seasons at Yale and a NT 1st round and a PI bid at worst.
10/19/2015 2:14 PM
I don't know the answer for certain.  I do expect that some schools are programmed to look for or give higher weight to specific things: reputation, length of tenure, loyalty whatever.  So, one school might be fine with that resume after 4 seasons, but another might not be.  

I won't defend the current system.  The best fix would be to lower standards of entry and raise the likelihood of being fired relative to the baseline prestige, but that's just a wish-list item right now.  If your loyalty is showing as A+ right now, and there weren't other issues at play, then I don't know why you wouldn't be eligible for bad Big 6 job right now, but I would imagine that you won't be eligible after only 3 seasons.  Maybe 4, but it might be 5.
10/19/2015 2:32 PM
Posted by rogelio on 10/19/2015 2:32:00 PM (view original):
I don't know the answer for certain.  I do expect that some schools are programmed to look for or give higher weight to specific things: reputation, length of tenure, loyalty whatever.  So, one school might be fine with that resume after 4 seasons, but another might not be.  

I won't defend the current system.  The best fix would be to lower standards of entry and raise the likelihood of being fired relative to the baseline prestige, but that's just a wish-list item right now.  If your loyalty is showing as A+ right now, and there weren't other issues at play, then I don't know why you wouldn't be eligible for bad Big 6 job right now, but I would imagine that you won't be eligible after only 3 seasons.  Maybe 4, but it might be 5.
yep I guess it's just going to depend on which jobs are open to since like you mentioned each school weigh things differently.

And all realistic Big 6 job openings aren't worth leaving Yale for except Providence maybe
10/19/2015 2:41 PM
The requirements are correlated with base prestige and actual prestige, this one floating. Say two teams are B and one has a lower base prestige, the job is easier to get. If both have the same base, you could still qualify for one and not the other because one could be a low B and the other one is a medium B, so to speak. If you reach C+ prestige, you will qualify for C- and less as big six, your C- possibility being a Hawaii-like gig.

Plus, don't forget Tark is pretty big six oriented so be patient or come to A-10
10/19/2015 3:33 PM
Well I have added a rare NT win to the resume(over big 6!)

29-1 NT 1st round
29-2 NT 2nd round

I'm assuming this jumps Yale to a C+/B- and I qualify f'or C+ or worse Big 6 school?  Probably won't be able to get a B/B+ minnesota sadly untl after next season if it stays open
11/20/2015 12:14 PM (edited)
I still don't think you'll qualify for a big 6 job unless there's one that's currently like D+. I think you'll need 1-2 more seasons making the NT before you're eligible.
11/20/2015 3:02 PM
Are you able to jump up from a D-3 team to a big 6 job? I was a long shot in IBA for Purdue (C-) and Kansas St (C-), but am not sure if I would have got either of those jobs if I applied.
11/20/2015 4:45 PM
Posted by qb4usf on 11/20/2015 4:45:00 PM (view original):
Are you able to jump up from a D-3 team to a big 6 job? I was a long shot in IBA for Purdue (C-) and Kansas St (C-), but am not sure if I would have got either of those jobs if I applied.
Yes it is possible, but it requires a long run of success at D3. The teams in question were either C or C- prestige. If you are longshot for those jobs now, you are probably pretty close to being eligible.
11/20/2015 6:14 PM
You need to win in the NT at DI to make the jump to a better program. I know this because I have many NT appearances in Wooden but zero NT wins, and every job is either a step backward or I'm not qualified. It's like a DI limbo if you don't win in the NT.
11/23/2015 8:48 PM
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