So I just took over a new team in Phelen, 8 seniors, 4 juniors, so for the first part of the year I didn't put any study hall minutes because they were all uperclassmen. Then at the midterm they were all still above 2.0 but my assistant thought I should get some of them into study hall, so I give everybody 2 minutes, thinking that if they are already above 2.0 they should be safe. but the sim screwed me, i have 3 guys below 2.0, all guards, all my 3 best guards. Raymond Rowe, William Hector, and Aaron Russel. Why did this happen? they were perfectly fine with no minutes, then I added minutes and they did worse. And why was it all guards and my 3 best guards, are they just screwing with me? I'm screwed now even if I'm in a weak conference, I only have 2 guards and they kind of stink.

If you took over a sim team, that means your current players all likely had terrible college GPAs. How they are currently doing in college does appear to have an effect on future grades as well - so they are already on the dumb side. Then, if your coach is telling you they need more SH time, that means they are barely over the line at midterms. If they are that important why did you only put in 2 SH minutes??? At first glance this looks like it's on you. At least they can return in time for you to win your CT, which you should be able to do easily.

When someone is at 2, I go 15 in the SH. When someone is at 2.5, I go 10... And so on. I put no point into a player who has 2.8 and up. I spent 10 on a player in SH and he ended at 2.0 anyways... I almost lost him.

Once you lose one or two players to ineligibility. You get scared!

Good luck in the CT Monster.

I didn't think I needed to because they were all above 2.0 and they were all uperclassmen, so I thought if I put just a little time in they would get better, not worse. I hope I can survive now without them and not drop any games.

usually all my upperclassmen stay on 0 minutes of study hall, i think you mostly just got a string of bad luck there. i usually will put in more than 2 if a key upperclassmen does show 2.4 or lower though, more like 6m for a guy at the top of that range and could be as high as double digits if hes on the lower end of that range (2.0-2.2)

There are two factors which affect eligibility on grades - current semester GPA and OVERALL GPA.

So your guys likely dropped under the cutoff for OVERALL GPA.

If you take over a sim team with guys under 2.5 in overall GPA, you need to be careful. I always put at least 10 minutes into them the first time just to see what happens. It is better to put in a few extra minutes than to lose the guys you need.

Will do, at least theyre not out post season so It's not to bad, but now I'm down to 2 guards so I might lose even against this trash competition.

I did the exact same thing. I had a SO with a 2.2 midterm gpa. I put 2 more minutes in SH to help and I got final grades back and he finished with a 1.9 gpa. I don't get how more SH minutes made his gpa drop

Posted by jsajsa on 1/15/2016 7:27:00 AM (view original):
If you took over a sim team, that means your current players all likely had terrible college GPAs. How they are currently doing in college does appear to have an effect on future grades as well - so they are already on the dumb side. Then, if your coach is telling you they need more SH time, that means they are barely over the line at midterms. If they are that important why did you only put in 2 SH minutes??? At first glance this looks like it's on you. At least they can return in time for you to win your CT, which you should be able to do easily.

This.  If they were that close to failing and they were that important to your team, you really should have jacked up the SH minutes, almost to the point of overkill.  As seniors, they probably didn't have "that" much room for individual improvement in their categories so err on the side of caution and give plenty of time for them to hit the books.

Chalk it up to a learning experience.

Posted by emy1013 on 1/15/2016 3:00:00 PM (view original):

Posted by jsajsa on 1/15/2016 7:27:00 AM (view original):
If you took over a sim team, that means your current players all likely had terrible college GPAs. How they are currently doing in college does appear to have an effect on future grades as well - so they are already on the dumb side. Then, if your coach is telling you they need more SH time, that means they are barely over the line at midterms. If they are that important why did you only put in 2 SH minutes??? At first glance this looks like it's on you. At least they can return in time for you to win your CT, which you should be able to do easily.

This.  If they were that close to failing and they were that important to your team, you really should have jacked up the SH minutes, almost to the point of overkill.  As seniors, they probably didn't have "that" much room for individual improvement in their categories so err on the side of caution and give plenty of time for them to hit the books.

Chalk it up to a learning experience.

They were with sims so a lot of them did, Raymond Rowe is still blue in LP, and black in several others. I really didn't think it was going to be an issue, I guess I should have payed it more attention, but it seems weird that the 3 guys that are out are my 3 best guards. Seems a little unfair.

Just extremely bad luck, that's all.  Not a behind the scenes conspiracy to screw the Beastly Terrapin's team.  

In the mean time, they can still practice so keep your individual minutes there, no need to pile them all on SH.  Then, when you get the mid-term grades, just adjust your SH minutes accordingly.  If  they are anywhere close to 2.0 don't be stingy with those minutes.  Too many and having them eligible is a much better option than not enough and having them have to sit.

i might be wrong,  but i dont think it was bad luck.

the sim-coached teams I have taken over most of the players are hovering barely above 2.0
its like simmy doesnt do study hall... but then why doesnt he ever have any go ineligible?

anyway.  with a player at  2.0 i would think youd have to go alot more than 2 minutes.  even if they are upperclassmen.  I would probably go 10, but maybe im too cautious.  i dont know this for sure but i would think if you have a player at 2.0 and you give them 2 minutes,  they are going to fall below 2.0 quite often.  probably not half the time,  but i think in your case it was like 3 out of 12, which seems about right.  i guess the unlucky part is that they were all gaurds and some of your better players.

any time they are below 2.5 and highlighted yellow, i take that as a sign that you need to really bump up studyhall unless you want to roll the dice

2 minutes just isnt enough when a kid is close to 2.0 - need to go at least like 9 or 11 then - or maybe more.

The following is from the Player's Guide (https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/help/guide.aspx)  

I think it came from Iguana's practice minute guide and it indicates he "stole it" from Oldresorter.  I have always followed this for SH minutes ... it may be a little overkill but I've never had a player go ineligible with this method either.  Keep in mind ONLY the Freshman season utilizes the High School GPA ... thereafter utilize the college GPA.

The last thing we'll cover before moving on is Study Hall minutes. During the course of the season, you will receive 2 mid-term reports and 2 final grade E-mails regarding your players. The mid-term reports are simply giving you updates on how your players are performing in the classroom, giving you a chance to adjust minutes if need be. However, if any of your players fall below a 2.0 for his final grade, he will be declared academically ineligible. If this is the first semester, he will have the chance to come back just before the Conference Tournament begins, assuming he gets his grades up. If a player falls below 2.0 during the 2nd semester, he is done for the year. To avoid this, I've used this formula that I stole from Oldresorter. By allocating my Study Hall minutes this way, I've never had a player declared ineligible in 60 seasons of HD:

• Freshman: 4.0 - HS GPA x 10
• Sophomore: 3.6 - GPA x 10
• Junior: 3.2 - GPA x 10
• Senior: 2.8 - GPA x 10