Team Rosters/Evals
98average - LeBron James, Terrell Brandon, Jose Calderon, Tree Rollins, Lamar Odom, Joel Przybilla
This is your big effort to impress your sim-crush ash? I doubt he's impressed and neither am I. Sure, LeBron should dominate and maybe even carry you in the playoffs, but you aint winning no title. Fail.
hardened - Wilt Chamberlain, Bobby Jones, Derek Harper, Ray Allen, Troy Murphy, Brandon Knight, Larry Smith
Well, looks like the MVP race is already over. Wilt will win it easily with something like 32/15/5/4. But he won't be shooting 70% from the field. You only get 20+ ppg and 70% shooting from one season in the sim - 66-67. That season is special. You can argue 65-66 might even be better for the ODL since you don't need to pay for as much usg later on, but give me the extra fg%, oreb%, and ast% please. While I don't like which Wilt you used, I loved the way you built your team around him. That was a great trade that set you up with an extra 3rd. Getting Jones with that pick and his 100 d at sf/pf really gave you a lot of flexibility with your later picks. Murphy may have terrible d but no one else in the sim gives you that combo of 3s and dreb%. He shouldn't burn you too much on d since there is usually always a low usg sf/pf for him to guard on the other teams. Larry Smith used to be an ODL favorite of mine until I found someone even cheaper(though not as good) to fill in those sf/pf mins with cheap, low usg rebounding. What really set up this team for success imo is the Harper/Allen picks. Both picks seemed a little early(you broke my heart with that allen pick) but you can't look at the draft board the same as the other teams do when you have Wilt in the ODL. While other teams can afford the more expensive late 2nd/early 3rd guys, Wilt teams are already behind 2-4m in salary and need to start budgeting. Harper gives you the needed backcourt d and great A/T and Allen combines with Wilt for a great 1-2 scoring punch. Thanks to those seasons I think you'll be able to get enough over 19300 mins(tough with Wilt). I think this team could definitely win it all. Nice job.
scudmissle - Michael Jordan, Bob McAdoo, Joakim Noah, Danny Green, Alvin Robertson, Jamaal Tinsley, Walt Williams
Ahh Scud. I always feel like you have such a great start to most drafts and then just make that one pick that bugs me. It was the Green/Robertson picks this time. I feel like they are both best used at the SG spot, which MJ obviously should be playing all his mins. Green/Williams at SF probably means you are behind in the rebound battle and I just don't like Alvin as the 3rd scoring option. Of course, I tend to focus on the offense more in draft leagues, so I'm probably overlooking the fact that Green/Alvin may have turned this into a deadly defensive monster with a great 1-2 scoring punch in MJ/McAdoo. In a perfect world, MJ gets to play next to a 30% + ast guy who shoots 3s and plays some d. But those guys aren't gonna be around for you in the late 4th. And in this draft, where the PGs went verrry early, some teams were left without one. Lucky for you, Noah and his 21% ast have you covered. That 13-14 season really is a unique season. Only KG is gonna give you that def/ast% combo from the 4/5 spots like he does. His 90 d will cover for your "weakest" defender(McAdoo at 73!). You played the Hinkie to bds's Divac with that Tinsley trade. He's an elite backup PG and you got him for nothing. Well done. I'm glad you switched to 89-90 MJ. When I first joined the sim, I was all about 88-89 MJ. Hard not to with that 32/8/8 stat line. But over time I switched over to 89-90. The extra dimes and rebs are nice and all, but at the end of the day, you need MJ to score points for you and 89-90 is better at that. Really nice team build Scud. I'd expect playoffs. But I still get to say "I told you so" about Green/Alvin if you struggle.
cjok1051 - Ben Wallace, Shawn Marion, Terry Porter, Amare Stoudemire, Kyrie Irving, Jalen Rose, Dirk Nowitzki
I don't think our trade could have worked out any better for you. Big Ben is an elite reb/def guy with a low price tag that doesn't always last until pick 28. Marion was another great 2nd round add. Those two put you in perfect position to grab an elite paint scorer in Stoudemire with the extra 3d rounder. And with your first 3rd rounder, you were able to grab Porter before the good PGs ran out. Really nice job with those picks. I liked the Irving pick as well. You were getting no ast% at all from the frontcourt so it was really important to get 15+ ast% from your SG. Irving provides that and brings in the usg/3s to complete an excellent starting 5. You lost me on the bench though. Dirk was an expensive backup to Amare, especially when you consider he's giving you more mins then you needed at PF. Some of his mins will spill over to C where Ben's super cheap low usg backups should be playing. But I have more of a problem with Rose. I guess the appeal with him is that you can take advantage of his 30% ast at SF. But you already have 38 mins going to Marion at SF and you weren't going to get any kind of assist bump even of he played all his mins at SF anyway. He's not a very good shooter, sucks on defense, and adds a lot of unnecessary fouls and turnovers. I just don't get that pick. Despite Rose, I do really like the starting 5 and think you'll be in the playoff hunt.
amerk1180 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Elton Brand, Gary Payton, Kyle Korver, Emeka Okafor, Cadillac Anderson, Toni Kukoc
I feel for ya Amerk. I've been in this spot many times in the ODL. You get 3 awesome(but expensive) players right away in the first 3 rounds and think you're well on your way to building a contender. Then you get lazy, forget to see how the cap is looking, and just go ahead and pick two more expensive role players. Next, to top it off, pick two more expensive backups in round 6. Finally at the end of it, you admit defeat and add the Ruffin's and Kenny Thomas's of the sim to complete a 19000 min team. You may even do what I always do and talk yourself into the team being a contender at 97-98%. But it never works out. Kareem will score 30ppg, Korver will shoot 50% from 3, Emeka and Brand will keep you steady on the boards, but at the end of the season when all your guys are under 100%, chances are you'll be looking at 30-40 wins and a lottery ticket.
uptowngbv - Hakeem Olajuwon, Mookie Blaylock, Jerry Lucas, Klay Thompson, Bo Outlaw, Paul George, Brendan Haywood
93-94 Hakeem? I'm always against not using the best season of the players you're building the team around. Save money on the role players. I'd rather go with 92-93 Hakeem and not bring in Paul George. Hated that pick. Bo Outlaw is an ODL hero with his awesome defense, solid boards, and low low cost. Why not use him full time at SF? You already had enough usg in the starting lineup. Of course I may just be hyping up Outlaw because I recently won with him, you know how that goes. I also think using 92-93 Hakeem and a full min Outlaw would have helped more with the boards, which look to be very light. Defense is looking pretty great though. Lucas is the only poor defender and he still helps in that area with his excellent dreb% and low fouls. I guess Lucas is pretty much going to be a 3rd round pick(maybe even slip to the 4th) from here on out. That's good news for any teams with Moses/Dwight/Hakeem/DRob/Malone etc. Lucas is an awesome sidekick to those types of big men and will always be underrated imo.
mikee1 - Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, Buck Williams, Jason Terry, Andrew Bynum, Andre Miller, David Lee
Two top 10 picks! I'm pretty sure you get kicked out of the league if you start off with two top 10s and don't make the playoffs. Lucky for you, that shouldn't be a problem. I was immediately scared when you picked Dwight first. He's definitely the most flexible of the dominant bigs with his elite reb/def/pnt scoring at the 4/5 spots. With Dwight, you can go after the Amare/Ewing/Boozer/Dirk/Bynum group for a dominant inside duo or grab a unique guy like a Mason or Murphy. Bynum over Ewing was a wise choice. One that I probably wouldn't have made and then been ****** about when I end up with only 19000 mins. Bynum also really helps with his Wilt-like fouling when you already have Dwight. Interesting move with Buck. Not sure I remember anyone using his SF seasons. I'm sure we've all noticed them, but usually end up using his more impactful PF seasons. His 70 d and 11/21 reb% will drop some at 98% SF, but you could say the same thing about the other best starting low usg reb/d SF option there(the undrafted? A.C. Green). 3pt shooting was a must for the SG spot and I think you nailed that pick with Terry. At that point in the draft you aren't gonna find a 3pt shooter with a complete game. But you should look to add one more skill to go with the 3pt shooting, whether it's rebounds, d, or assists. Terry adds a nice 19.7 ast%. Lee was a nice usg pick at the 4/5 but that was a lot of money to spend on a bench guy. I think you might have been able to do better using 2 or 3 guys to fill that void. Pretty scary team overall Mike. I don't think you'll have to worry about that first round knockout this time.
thomcat - Moses Malone, Kevin McHale, Rajon Rondo, Marques Johnson, Chris Mullin, George T. Johnson, Chris Copeland
My favorite 2nd round pick. The beauty of Moses is that you can literally pick anyone in the 2nd and he will fit well with him. But not every 1st round pick could handle a unique talent like McHale. He and Moses are a perfect pair. Moses should really benefit from having the weaker defensive pf/c covering him. You really had endless options after that start. Especially at the SF spot(I'm done with McHale at SF - give me all of that 60% please). Pretty smart to grab Rondo when you had the chance. No 3s but the defense and ast% were too good to pass up. Really like that trio. In my mind that set you up to load up on more boards at SF(hello manimal) and go after a 3pt bomber with some usage. 77-78 Marques would have been better imo, but 78-79 does give you another high efg% scorer. Really low TOs too. Mullin has that flashy 60% efg but hes also the last scoring option on offense and is only 26% per. George T. adds good boards behind Moses and Copeland is a great backup to Marques. I'm guessing money will be tight backing up the guards though. Definitely not how I would have built the team after the first 3 picks but I kinda like it. I think you make the playoffs.
jhsukow - Anthony Davis, Dikembe Mutombo, James Harden, Tracy McGrady, Serge Ibaka, Anthony Mason, Sedale Threatt
Unless you just feel like you need to mix it up, I wouldn't trade out of the 1st round if you have a top 10 pick. Those high usg big men are just too valuable. But if you're gonna trade away that pick, ending up with Harden or McGrady as your #1 is a great fallback. But both of them? You got greedy. With those trades you could have surrounded McGrady or Harden(I prefer McGrady) with some elite role players. Frazier(or maybe Price or KJ)/Harden/Davis/Drummond/Mutombo looks pretty scary to me. Of course, being greedy isn't always all bad. Harden/McGrady is a killer combo of FTs and 3s that will absolutely destroy some backcourts. Mason adds the extra ast% needed. He's a great player, but I like him much better in the 52m where his salary doesn't hurt you. Looks like you had to use the 1700 min Mutombo as a result. That really hurts considering he was your best oreb% player. Gonna be a lot of misses on this team and the oreb% is kinda weak. Overall I don't see this being a very good offensive team. But the defense should be very good and you have a pretty clean team besides the Harden TOs. I wouldn't be surprised to see you winning the FT battle pretty easily. I'm surprised at how cheap 14-15 Ibaka is. That's really good value in the ODL and he even adds some 3s. O/U on Harden/McGrady ppg is 53.5. I think they need to hit the over if you're gonna be a contender.
jkaye24 - Karl Malone, Donyell Marshall, Kevin Love, Gerald Wallace, Brandon Rush, Art Williams, Jim Les
It's getting tougher and tougher to wait on drafting a backcourt. I love the Malone/Love/Marshall front line, but they don't leave you with many options or cash for a good backcourt. It looks like you couldn't afford enough usg and might be flirting with individual or team penalties(again, just speculation - I honestly don't know how that works). With Donyell on the team, you really didn't need to pay all that money for Wallace, even if it is only his crazy good defensive 05-06 season. Way too much pressure on Marshall/Wallace to provide offense next to Malone/Love. I could see them both struggling big time. I do like the PG platoon you got going. I couldn't have been the only owner ****** off when you took Les. In the 52m league, I think you could have turned those first 4 picks into a contender. I just don't think it'll work out in the ODL.
bds9992 - David Robinson, Rudy Gobert, Kawhi Leonard, Brandon Roy, Charlie Edge, Don Buse, Paul Millsap
If you're gonna end up with 4 6th round picks, you better have 2 superstars. I see only D-Rob, and you even downgraded him(gotta go with 90-91, or even 89-90). Really, I'm just kinda confused how you even ended up with 4 6ths and no extra pick. Gobert is a fine player but that was a reach in round 2. You could have had your pick of Chandler/Drummond/Boerwinkle in the 3rd. Taking a board lord in the 2nd is fine if you have a plan that requires you to go after them early, but not if that plan leads to Brandon Roy. I like Roy a lot but he's gonna struggle in this offense and probably turn it over more than you think. You probably have the lowest ast% in the league thanks to Buse. You would have been better off keeping Tinsley and forming a nice PG combo. Edge is one of my favorite players and Millsap adds solid usg off the bench. Nice picks there. Should be a solid rebounding team as well. You can add all the steals in the sim to this team(and you tried! haha) but at the end of the day I just don't think there is enough talent here to make the playoffs.
jt7king - Stephen Curry, Charles Barkley, Walt Frazier, Mark Eaton, Larry Sanders, Caron Butler, Samuel Dalembert
Two top 12 picks is is an owners dream. Impossible to screw it up. Curry/Barkley is about as bad a combo defensively as you could have chosen in that spot, but the offense more than makes up for it. Elite inside/out combo. And then look at that, the next three picks are all elite defenders. Defense problem is solved and now even looks like a strength(when you consider that outside of the top 12, Curry's 72 is actually pretty good). I really like how the starting 5 fits together. Rebounding is very solid and there looks to be enough ast%. Curry/Barkley should both be getting plenty of shots. I can't wait to see how many 3s Steph ends up with(350+ I'm guessing). Im curious to see how you fill out the bench though. You need a lot of usg/ast/3s behind Frazier/Curry.Barkley and it'll be tough to afford quality backups that can do all that. Sanders' backup might be expensive as well to get the needed creb and d. Bench players also usually bring fouls, which is already a problem with the starting 5. There's gonna be a lot of pressure on Frazier to be that 3rd scorer and get to the line. I think a lot of your success will depend on how he does and how you are able to round out the bench.
eleibowitz - Dennis Rodman, Alonzo Mourning, Chris Webber, Kevin Johnson, Nick Anderson, Jordan Farmar, Pau Gasol
Looks like I actually have something in common with Ted Cruz. Another great team build from one of the ODLs very best owners. If it wasn't for the Leibo 5 season rule(look at the past odl winners) I'd say you have a good chance to win it all. But I guess you'll have to wait until next season. It's tough to wait on drafting a backcourt, but there was KJ just waiting for you. I guess with the recent PG boom, KJ will start going in the 3rd/4th where he belongs. It's amazing the super-clean Gasol didn't get drafted as a starter(09-10 season should always be used as a starter) but he makes for a solid backup here to Webber/Zo. There's literally no holes on this team. I think it'll come down to whether or not Zo can carry a team in the playoffs. I typed that last sentence before checking the ODL record of champs again. And whadduya know, Leibo has already won 2 chips with Zo. Maybe the 5 season rule gets broken?
benhoidal - Kevin Durant, Bill Walton, Tyson Chandler, Charlie Ward, Bobby Phills, Arvydas Sabonis, Earl Watson
13-14 Durant! Loooove that season but everyone seems to still be on the 12-13 season. 13-14 Durant is right up there with 89-90 MJ and 12-13 LeBron for best SG/SF scoring seasons. I like seeing him at SF too where he is 100%. With Durant at SF I'm surprised you didn't use a better rebounding Chandler(06-07 is my fav), especially playing next to Walton and his 93 d. Phills won't stay underrated for long if you keep using him winning teams Ben. So enjoy him now while you can. Sabonis was a great pick that adds needed scoring off the bench. No doubt a playoff team for the ODLs resident guru(sorry ash but ben has taken your title).
omegax - Magic Johnson, Steve Nash, Horace Grant, Mark Price, Kenneth Faried, Wes Unseld, Caldwell Jones
Welcome back to the ODL evil. Don't think I'm gonna take it easy on you because you're rusty. I was gonna start off with a Ho Grant rant(92-93 over 93-94?) but after looking at 92-93 and thinking about the advantage of actually having him at 100% SF, I think I'll back off on that one. I'll start off with the Nash pick. I'm into the Magic/Nash turnover combo of death. I think it can definitely work. I just don't like it as much in the ODL, and also for where in the draft you were at. So many good frontcourt players were available to pair with Magic. But the thing I really hate about the Nash pick is that you ended up having Magic/Nash as your only scoring options. The O/U on Magic/Nash topg is 7.9 and I doubt either guy reaches their RL shooting %s. I'm not really sure(Id check with ash or copernicus(felonius)) but you might be in the team or individual pentalty as well. There's just not enough usage here for this to be a good offensive team. And you really need to outscore teams to win with your below average defense. I don't expect this to be a playoff team. Ending on a positive note, I like that Caldwell season. That's a cheap season that gives you pretty good rebounding and defense(tough to find in the 6th). You also might be on to something with 92-93 Grant. I'll be curious to see how he does this season.
superrobb420 - Dwyane Wade, Kevin Garnett, Andre Drummond, Draymond Green, Nicolas Batum, Grant Hill, Sam Cassell
One nice thing about the ODL is that really good expensive players like KG will slide further then they usually do. I'm a big fan of KG.....IF you use 02-03. I don't get why people use other seasons honestly. His rebound advantage at SF is second only to Rodman. Plus you get the added bonus of having a 90d switch onto the other teams best 3/4 if you draft a PF with weak defense. You used 02-03, but then also grabbed Draymond. Good pick and all, but it kinda kills KG's value imo(which 10m was spent on). A cheaper Zo, Brand, or McHale is probably just as good if you looking for PFs to score the ball for you. Anyway, despite my 02-03KG pet peeve, I think this turned out to be a really tough squad. Drummond and Batum kill the defensive vibe Wade/KG bring but they were too good to pass up. Both fit in nicely and make this a much better offensive team. Their excellent dreb% will also help the defense. I thought you had committed sim-suicide with that Grant Hill pick, but now I see he's just a backup(pretty nice one too). I'd say this is a playoff team but the offense makes me think it will be a bubble team. The extra dimes from the 2-4 spots should help, but you're still relying on Wade/KG way too much. They just don't have the efg/fta/3pm of other top combos. Green is a pretty bad 3rd option, although I think Drummond will play over his 16.8usg and end up being the 3rd scorer you rely on. He's a beast. I can't wait for the 15-16 version. EDIT: No 13-14 Drummond? Boooooooo
ashamael - Larry Bird, Deron Williams, Tom Boerwinkle, Kris Humphries, Andrew Bogut, Eric Bledsoe, Michael Redd
Didn't want an eval. Not surprising. I'm not gonna tell you anything you already didn't know. I see you still have a thing for Mr. Redd tho. He was getting no love while you were away. Bet that will change soon.
slymonium - Scottie Pippen, Marcus Camby, Shawn Kemp, Andrei Kirilenko, Goran Dragic, George Hill, Al Horford
Whew, those first four picks really bring a lot to the table huh? All of them play amazing defense, rebound their position well, have good to great ast% for their position and can score the ball(besides Camby). Almost seems like too much usg when you add in Dragic at pg but I think it works. That buries AK47 and his 20.6usg/48.5efg to 4th on the pecking order, minimizing his below average shooting. Scottie is no true #1 scoring option anyway, so you'd rather have a large group effort then have to rely on him to carry the load. Starting lineup are all under 8m so the bench shouldn't look too bad. Horford and Hill are a great start. That should cover usage as well. Defense scares me a lot more then the offense does. FTAs and 3s aren't all that impressive and neither is the efg%. I've just never been a big fan of Pippen. Always seems to underwhelm offensively. That defense is nasty though. Lots of blocks and steals and very good dreb%. Should be a contender.
ysw128 - Anfernee Hardaway, Oscar Robertson, Robert Parish, Roy Tarpley, Swen Nater, Brevin Knight, Quinn Buckner
Let's just say I'm glad you're in my division. I don't get what's going on here at all. It looked like you had something good going, and all of a sudden....boom...Knight and Buckner show up and send this team right to the lottery.
seapilots - John Stockton, Chauncey Billups, Clifford Ray, Hassan Whiteside, Patrick Ewing, J.R. Smith, Anderson Varejao
I somehow missed you when I was looking over teams to see if I was gonna able to get 97-98 Ewing to back up Shaq. Did you have Ewing in mind the whole time? I wonder who the backup plan was. Dirk maybe? Anyway, it worked out brilliantly. Ray/Whiteside/Varejao is just awesome. 48 mins of elite rebounding and good defense for just under 9.5m. I can see this combo(or some variation of it) being used more frequently in the ODL. Or at least until 15-16 Whiteside comes out and takes away the top option from those combos. I'm a 05-06 Billups guy all the way(shout out to ltb) but 07-08 is really good too. I hope that "SF" was a typo next to J.R.'s name. I don't care how good that PF combo is, you're gonna get crushed on the boards with Smith at SF. Didn't like that pick at all. His 14-15 season isn't that great to begin with. With that PF combo and Stockton/Billups feeding Ewing I liked the path this team was heading. I'm just not sure how your gonna be able to fill out the SG/SF mins to make it a contender. Money will get tight as you try to find a balance between boards(and adding more fouls to this group of hacks) and usg/efg(still need some more usg imo).
dh555 - Shaquille O'Neal, Jason Kidd, Larry Nance, Carlos Boozer, Wesley Person, Jeff Ruland, Nate McMillan
see pg 7
jcred5 - Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Mel Daniels, Brent Barry, Paul Pressey, Jameer Nelson, Brandan Wright
Really enjoyed the draft breakdown(pg 7). Interesting to see how things unraveled, leading you to Pressey at SF. I think the main problem however, was the Barry pick. He just doesn't really fit next to manu unless you are loaded with ast% in the frontcourt. Price,Ward, and KJ were all sitting there in the 4th for you. Taking one of them would have made the rest of the draft much easier imo. Barry is a very expensive role player in the ODL. I really didn't think Daniels had another usable season besides 70-71 but 71-72 is pretty good. It's still a waste of a 3rd round pick to not use his best season, but clearly not as bad as I originally thought when I saw you downgraded. He's really gonna have to carry this team on the glass, where I see you getting beat most nights. Nelson will be a fine backup to Manu, but he'd be much better off playing next to him. Looks like Daniels is also going to have to backup Duncan's mins instead of playing all his mins next to him. Definitely not your best effort Jcred. I think your playoff streak is over. I have to agree with you on your O/U win total of 33.5. That's spot on imo.
copernicus - DeAndre Jordan, Artis Gilmore, Clyde Drexler, Andre Iguodala, Paul Pierce, Mike Bibby, Vladimir Radmonovic
Not saying it can't work, but I just don't like the Jordan/Gilmore start for the ODL. Unless you are targeting the T-Mac/Harden/Kobe group I think it becomes too hard/costly to fill out the rest of the squad the way you'd want to. I still like how this team turned out but it looks like you'll be kinda short on mins and you are definitely short on assists. Everything else looks solid. Good defense and rebounding(even with a "small" lineup) and Jordan/Gilmore should feast on the offensive glass. You better have good dreb% against this team or those two will kill you with their oreb/efg combo. I really like how Pierce/Drexler/Iggy can all switch on d at the 1/2/3. Nice planning there. One thing I gotta know...Kobe? Did you consider it? Or are you still stung from his terrible performance in the 52?
banditone - Julius Erving, Bill Russell, Mo Cheeks, Chris Gatling, Lou Hudson, Johnny Green, Rodrigue Beaubois
Yadda yadda yadda...last place.
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