Most NT's w/o a Win & Don Nelson's Fish Necktie Topic

I'm playing #2 ranked Menlo tonight in Naismith, and I've decided to wear a fish necktie on the sidelines, like the ones Don Nelson used to wear when he coached the Bucks. I don't know, I'm hoping it gives me good luck.
3/3/2016 1:30 AM
It didn't work. I lost big although i beat the point spread.
3/3/2016 8:40 AM
Do I Have The Record For Most NT appearances without an NT win?
0-13...?

Crum Albertus Magnus: 0-2. (67, 68)
Crum Merrimack: 0-3. (71, 72, 74)
Crum Holy Cross: 0-2. (78, 79)
Knight Rhode Island College: 0-1. (75)
Wooden Connecticut College: 0-2. (79, 80)
Naismith Albertus Magnus: 0-3. (84, 85, 86)

I've tended to get poor NT seeds. I think my best seed was a #12 one time. One time I lost in OT to the eventual national champion.
I have I think 4 PIT appearances, and have won a couple of games.
3/3/2016 11:10 AM (edited)
You could try playing the RPI Manipulation game to bump up your seed. Play all sims on the road to get a high RPI.
3/3/2016 12:01 PM
Posted by Benis on 3/3/2016 12:01:00 PM (view original):
You could try playing the RPI Manipulation game to bump up your seed. Play all sims on the road to get a high RPI.
Are you talking about like this?
#1 at U.S. Merchant Marines
#2 at Mississippi College
#3 at W. Connecticut St.
#4 Guilford
#5 at E. Connecticut St.
#6 at City College of NY
#7 at Trinity (TX)
#8 at Chestnut Hill
#9 U.S. Coast Guard
#10 Upper Iowa
I always have two home games at the end of season. I have one game from the previous seasons which I play them tonight. Hopefully I get some jucos next season so I won't suffer a whole lot of L's next season. The one game from the previous season is the first game. Actually now that I look at it I have two Gulford and U.S Merchant Marines.
3/3/2016 1:46 PM
Actually Coachward, no not really. It's better than playing 5 home games... but why do you 'always have two home games at end season'? Why do that? Those two SIMs are mediocre and just as winnable on the road as they are at home. So you're not doing yourself any favors playing those at home.

To clarify- if you're brand new starting out or doing a rebuild, then maybe those SIMs are a bit tougher. But if you're gonna get an at large bid to the NT, then they should be no problem to beat on the road.
3/3/2016 1:53 PM
The only time you should be playing he games is for home/home challenges against other humans
3/3/2016 1:55 PM
just for the record, playing all sims on the road is a valuable tactic for a certain slice of coaches. that slice is generally coaches in a really hard conference, who are going to get their ***** handed to them, who need the weighted wins (away wins) in non conf to soften the blow of conference play.

for most other folks, an all sim schedule is absolutely not optimal. for any top 25 or so team, by talent/coaching/etc, it is not the best way to go. for most others, its also not the way to go... but it is always important, to note if a gimmick strategy is viable at the high end or not. its viable, because its not that horrible, but its far from optimal.

all sim schedules were popular before the projection report came out, largely because of laziness - it was possible to spend 20m on the last day and still come out in fairly good shape. but with the projection report heavily weighting record vs top 25/50/75/100 teams, sims just don't cut it anymore, for the truly competitive.
3/3/2016 2:03 PM
Posted by Benis on 3/3/2016 1:53:00 PM (view original):
Actually Coachward, no not really. It's better than playing 5 home games... but why do you 'always have two home games at end season'? Why do that? Those two SIMs are mediocre and just as winnable on the road as they are at home. So you're not doing yourself any favors playing those at home.

To clarify- if you're brand new starting out or doing a rebuild, then maybe those SIMs are a bit tougher. But if you're gonna get an at large bid to the NT, then they should be no problem to beat on the road.
"Why do that" Well I want my homecourt to go up that's one of my goal and I went undefeated in non conference play at home this season. I probably think I have had too many away games or something similar. After I get my loyality to A+ then I am going to get my homecourt to a C. Then I am possible going to work on perstige it depends on how far my win/loss record is. I plan on making my record up in division 2. I have a possiblity to make it as a 8th seed in the Pit tournament this season early exit probably going to play my next season lineup in that game.

I have had messages say to me that "My loyality is going to go to a A+ next season from a B+" Wouldn't it just make the jump to A-?
3/3/2016 2:57 PM
one thing to keep in mind... building on what gil said...

the way the rpi system works, the road games are helping your weighted winning percentage. but if you are in a weaker conference and and where you are not likely to lose more than 2 or 3 games the whole season,,,, your winning percentage will be really high anyway and the boost will be very minimal.

but, if you are in a tougher conference (where you are just hoping to stay above .500 and reasonable assume you will have at least 7 or 8 losses) then the boost that the extra road games gives your weighted winning percentage will be significant.

and that just addresses the rpi aspect. the proj report is often quite different. i dont totally understand the proj report, but i almost always feel that the proj report number is a truer reflection than ranking or rpi. oftentimes you will see someone with a great rpi (utilizing simheavy strategy) but their proj report will be significantly worse than rpi.
3/3/2016 2:58 PM
Posted by the0nlyis on 3/3/2016 1:55:00 PM (view original):
The only time you should be playing he games is for home/home challenges against other humans
I don't agree with that. I like to play any team at home I am not sure I can beat. A win is always better than a loss.
3/3/2016 3:02 PM
Playing 10 sims (or very winnable games) on the road in non-conference is a way to inflate the RPI and I think it'd be beneficial to incentivize teams for scheduling home games.
In real life the better D1 teams rarely play more than a couple road games during non-conference. The main reason being even with a buy game costing $50k+ for an opponent in D1, the home gate receipts far outweigh the hit the RPI takes for scheduling home games.

"What If" a team was rewarded for home games with additional recruiting money? Nothing major, maybe a few hundred a home game for D3. 8 home conference games would earn everyone a couple thousand. 10 home non-conf could earn another $2500, or equivalent to an added scholarship.

Don't look now, but I checked by team in Allen and wouldn't you know I have 10 road games in non-conference.
3/3/2016 3:35 PM
CoachWard, there is TONS of useful knowledge in here.

For literal years (IRL) I scheduled out of conference as 5 home and 5 away. Why? I don't know, OCD evenness? I read here and figured the *types* of teams I should be scheduling, but literally no reason other than I thought it *should* be even home and away.

Your out of conference schedule should only be driven by your conference schedule. You want more than 14 wins to be NT eligible. Maybe you really need 10 wins OOC for that, maybe you don't. I know some of my teams do.

Home and away - you get a slight advantage for winning on the road. You want to win, home or away, and shouldn't ever schedule a game you know you'll lose, but don't worry about building the home court advantage. Don't game that, game the rpi and proj report as dave and OW and gil say here. HCA will take care of itself if you schedule well.
3/3/2016 4:04 PM
Posted by Trentonjoe on 3/3/2016 3:02:00 PM (view original):
Posted by the0nlyis on 3/3/2016 1:55:00 PM (view original):
The only time you should be playing he games is for home/home challenges against other humans
I don't agree with that. I like to play any team at home I am not sure I can beat. A win is always better than a loss.
The ln pick a different team yoy can beat on the road. And a home loss is worse than a road loss for rpi calculation?
3/3/2016 4:07 PM
Posted by CoachWard95 on 3/3/2016 2:57:00 PM (view original):
Posted by Benis on 3/3/2016 1:53:00 PM (view original):
Actually Coachward, no not really. It's better than playing 5 home games... but why do you 'always have two home games at end season'? Why do that? Those two SIMs are mediocre and just as winnable on the road as they are at home. So you're not doing yourself any favors playing those at home.

To clarify- if you're brand new starting out or doing a rebuild, then maybe those SIMs are a bit tougher. But if you're gonna get an at large bid to the NT, then they should be no problem to beat on the road.
"Why do that" Well I want my homecourt to go up that's one of my goal and I went undefeated in non conference play at home this season. I probably think I have had too many away games or something similar. After I get my loyality to A+ then I am going to get my homecourt to a C. Then I am possible going to work on perstige it depends on how far my win/loss record is. I plan on making my record up in division 2. I have a possiblity to make it as a 8th seed in the Pit tournament this season early exit probably going to play my next season lineup in that game.

I have had messages say to me that "My loyality is going to go to a A+ next season from a B+" Wouldn't it just make the jump to A-?
Im pretty sure home court has nothing to do with your record or number of games at you place, your home court is just a reflection of how good you team is playing a team 25-0 with more home games is going to have the same home court as if they were 25 away games, and the away games boost your rpi.
3/3/2016 4:09 PM
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