Has anyone else had a issue where you are the only team at 'Very High' (everyone else is at 'Very Low') on one cycle only to have the recruit sign with someone else the very next cycle? Shouldn't there be some logic giving people a chance to battle back before the recruit signs with a team that wasn't even on it's radar just one cycle before?

This was suggested quite a few times in beta. If the recruit experiences a big swing in interest level there is a one time cycle holding period essentially. This would help combat the sniping/poaching situation a lot of folks don't like. Most people in beta seemed to like the idea but for some reason Seble never went for it.

I still there is a lot of merit to it and could still be implemented if they chose to do so.

They definitely should explore something. Lose primary, then backup goes from 'Very High' to signing with another team who was 'Very Low' the cycle before. Why waste time setting up a backup option if that can happen?

Posted by dacamel14 on 12/11/2016 11:57:00 AM (view original):
They definitely should explore something. Lose primary, then backup goes from 'Very High' to signing with another team who was 'Very Low' the cycle before. Why waste time setting up a backup option if that can happen?

Dacamel : check scholly offered. If it says yes, these team can poach. I personnaly even fear SIMS, they also make push. And if you think your effort makes you vulnerable, defend. Say you only have ap on, I think you did not do enough to get the recruit. Say the team pushes you down from an almost all-in situation, not a lot to do either. Better preferences, better prestige that is all.

Posted by zorzii on 12/11/2016 12:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dacamel14 on 12/11/2016 11:57:00 AM (view original):
They definitely should explore something. Lose primary, then backup goes from 'Very High' to signing with another team who was 'Very Low' the cycle before. Why waste time setting up a backup option if that can happen?

Dacamel : check scholly offered. If it says yes, these team can poach. I personnaly even fear SIMS, they also make push. And if you think your effort makes you vulnerable, defend. Say you only have ap on, I think you did not do enough to get the recruit. Say the team pushes you down from an almost all-in situation, not a lot to do either. Better preferences, better prestige that is all.

This isn't true zorzii. Just because they haven't already offered a scholly doesn't mean they can't go all in during 1 cycle. They could have unlocked all actions with AP and waited. Then during some cycle, they could have sent 20 HVs, 1 CV, promises, APs and the scholly offer all at once.

Posted by zorzii on 12/11/2016 12:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dacamel14 on 12/11/2016 11:57:00 AM (view original):
They definitely should explore something. Lose primary, then backup goes from 'Very High' to signing with another team who was 'Very Low' the cycle before. Why waste time setting up a backup option if that can happen?

Dacamel : check scholly offered. If it says yes, these team can poach. I personnaly even fear SIMS, they also make push. And if you think your effort makes you vulnerable, defend. Say you only have ap on, I think you did not do enough to get the recruit. Say the team pushes you down from an almost all-in situation, not a lot to do either. Better preferences, better prestige that is all.

All well and good zorzii, however if there with such a dramatic swing in one cycle, there should be a chance to recover. If a RL recruit was 'very high' on signing with a school but another team made an appealing late offer, wouldn't it make sense for the recruit to reach out to the first school and say 'hey, can you match this?' Wouldn't it make more sense for paying customers who are coaching in a sim as well?

Posted by dacamel14 on 12/11/2016 12:51:00 PM (view original):

Posted by zorzii on 12/11/2016 12:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dacamel14 on 12/11/2016 11:57:00 AM (view original):
They definitely should explore something. Lose primary, then backup goes from 'Very High' to signing with another team who was 'Very Low' the cycle before. Why waste time setting up a backup option if that can happen?

Dacamel : check scholly offered. If it says yes, these team can poach. I personnaly even fear SIMS, they also make push. And if you think your effort makes you vulnerable, defend. Say you only have ap on, I think you did not do enough to get the recruit. Say the team pushes you down from an almost all-in situation, not a lot to do either. Better preferences, better prestige that is all.

All well and good zorzii, however if there with such a dramatic swing in one cycle, there should be a chance to recover. If a RL recruit was 'very high' on signing with a school but another team made an appealing late offer, wouldn't it make sense for the recruit to reach out to the first school and say 'hey, can you match this?' Wouldn't it make more sense for paying customers who are coaching in a sim as well?

Agreed. And Benis is right, some will even hide scholly offer.

"Has anyone else had a issue where you are the only team at 'Very High' (everyone else is at 'Very Low') on one cycle only to have the recruit sign with someone else the very next cycle?"

I don't believe that happens very often, but I would like to see one cycle before signing, except maybe on the last day. You can get to Very High pretty easily, so if you have done that you know you are vulnerable and might consider firming up your position if it's a recruit you really want.

i seem to remember lebron having every intention of signing with the cavs..,then announcing he was leaving for the heat..i remember fans burning his jersey #..seems to me some recruits could behave the same way..

Posted by Benis on 12/11/2016 11:44:00 AM (view original):
This was suggested quite a few times in beta. If the recruit experiences a big swing in interest level there is a one time cycle holding period essentially. This would help combat the sniping/poaching situation a lot of folks don't like. Most people in beta seemed to like the idea but for some reason Seble never went for it.

I still there is a lot of merit to it and could still be implemented if they chose to do so.

I thought you said "Thems the breaks"?

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/11/2016 1:16:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 12/11/2016 11:44:00 AM (view original):
This was suggested quite a few times in beta. If the recruit experiences a big swing in interest level there is a one time cycle holding period essentially. This would help combat the sniping/poaching situation a lot of folks don't like. Most people in beta seemed to like the idea but for some reason Seble never went for it.

I still there is a lot of merit to it and could still be implemented if they chose to do so.

I thought you said "Thems the breaks"?

Your ability to stay salty over the smallest things for days on end amazes me.

Posted by mbriese on 12/11/2016 3:07:00 PM (view original):

Posted by MikeT23 on 12/11/2016 1:16:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 12/11/2016 11:44:00 AM (view original):
This was suggested quite a few times in beta. If the recruit experiences a big swing in interest level there is a one time cycle holding period essentially. This would help combat the sniping/poaching situation a lot of folks don't like. Most people in beta seemed to like the idea but for some reason Seble never went for it.

I still there is a lot of merit to it and could still be implemented if they chose to do so.

I thought you said "Thems the breaks"?

Your ability to stay salty over the smallest things for days on end amazes me.

You should try out the block user button. Mike T showed me how it use it and it's pretty awesome.

the core issue as I see it is how much one is willing to invest in the backup option - and how good a player you pick as backup

if you want the backup to hold, you invest more and aim lower

if you want to roll the dice, you roll the dice

I think the sequencing of recruiting could be improved, but in the current environment there are choices to make and odds to weigh on backups

Posted by fd343ny on 12/11/2016 6:50:00 PM (view original):
the core issue as I see it is how much one is willing to invest in the backup option - and how good a player you pick as backup

if you want the backup to hold, you invest more and aim lower

if you want to roll the dice, you roll the dice

I think the sequencing of recruiting could be improved, but in the current environment there are choices to make and odds to weigh on backups

I had to go all backups this class more role players than starters. I will probably try to take all the success Miles have up to that point. In 2 more seasons here at Miles.
I went all in on a recruit that went Big 6 to Mississippi State. The coach at Mississippi went all in before me I still had the budget after I withdraw scholarship and had 15 home visits and 1 campus visits. Then I went to 20 home visits 1 campus visit and a scholarship and he got the roll.