when you're at 71% it is darn frustrating to lose. Objectively, I know that 71% implies a 29% chance of losing, and that is how the game is designed to work

but not sure that a game that embeds such frustration after significant effort is fun. For me.

I understand completely. I think this was an odd design decision. The guy who wins at High vs. VH isn't as happy as the guy who loses at VH is upset so net negative feelings are generated.

Posted by mamxet on 1/25/2017 7:28:00 AM (view original):
when you're at 71% it is darn frustrating to lose. Objectively, I know that 71% implies a 29% chance of losing, and that is how the game is designed to work

but not sure that a game that embeds such frustration after significant effort is fun. For me.

80% is the treshold to guaranteed signing.

Ignore him

In 3.0 I've been in 9 battles at time of signings.
*One involved was 4 very high teams (I won, despite a full letter grade prestige difference)
*One was 2 VH teams (I lost)
*Seven were VH v H. In 5 of those the H team won and he other two the VH team won. I was on the losing end of 5.

I realize its it's a small sample size but it's really turn into making sure you can at least get to H and hope for the best.

Recruiting Percentage: 55%-45% effort result in a coin flip random result

0-10%:

10-20%:

20-30%:

30-40%:

40-50%:

50-60%:

60-70%:

70-80%:

80-90%:

= Coin Flip

70-30: 43% 70-50 70-40

60-10 60-40 60-30 60-20

80-30 80-60 80-50 80-40 80-30 80-20 80-10

100-30 100-80 100-70 100-60 100-50 100-40 100-30 100-20 100-10

Key Chart: 43% total use of effort

Higher number: Slot A

Lower number: Slot B

intervals of 10 = Coin Flip

In all you guys haters keep proving me right!

Posted by reinsel on 1/25/2017 8:00:00 AM (view original):
I understand completely. I think this was an odd design decision. The guy who wins at High vs. VH isn't as happy as the guy who loses at VH is upset so net negative feelings are generated.

I'm almost positive this is wrong.

And none of this is breaking news. Losing is frustrating in virtually every aspect of life.

Posted by CoachWard95 on 1/25/2017 8:46:00 AM (view original):

Recruiting Percentage: 55%-45% effort result in a coin flip random result

0-10%:

10-20%:

20-30%:

30-40%:

40-50%:

50-60%:

60-70%:

70-80%:

80-90%:

= Coin Flip

70-30: 43% 70-50 70-40

60-10 60-40 60-30 60-20

80-30 80-60 80-50 80-40 80-30 80-20 80-10

100-30 100-80 100-70 100-60 100-50 100-40 100-30 100-20 100-10

Key Chart: 43% total use of effort

Higher number: Slot A

Lower number: Slot B

intervals of 10 = Coin Flip

In all you guys haters keep proving me right!

what does this even mean??? what are the %s? and why do you have things like 100-10 on there? and what does it mean to have done 55%-45% effort?

" Objectively, I know that 71% implies a 29% chance of losing, and that is how the game is designed to work"

Do you guys play other probability based games? I play a lot of cards and dice based games so to me losing even though I "should" win is something I not only am familiar with but look for in games.

Truth be told, I imagine I am a minority. I really like games where the goal is to improve your chance of an event happening as opposed there just being a y/n decision.

I can't imagine you're in the minority. "Sure things" are only fun when gambling. When you're playing a game, there has to be a chance for failure or it's just not fun.

Posted by benrudy on 1/25/2017 9:37:00 AM (view original):

Posted by CoachWard95 on 1/25/2017 8:46:00 AM (view original):

Recruiting Percentage: 55%-45% effort result in a coin flip random result

0-10%:

10-20%:

20-30%:

30-40%:

40-50%:

50-60%:

60-70%:

70-80%:

80-90%:

= Coin Flip

70-30: 43% 70-50 70-40

60-10 60-40 60-30 60-20

80-30 80-60 80-50 80-40 80-30 80-20 80-10

100-30 100-80 100-70 100-60 100-50 100-40 100-30 100-20 100-10

Key Chart: 43% total use of effort

Higher number: Slot A

Lower number: Slot B

intervals of 10 = Coin Flip

In all you guys haters keep proving me right!

what does this even mean??? what are the %s? and why do you have things like 100-10 on there? and what does it mean to have done 55%-45% effort?

55%-45% equals 10% which = coin flip. All intervals of 10% equals coin flip which means it can be 90-80 etc. the 100-10 range is the signing range that is guaranteed signing range every range I listed is a guaranteed signing.

ok, so with the 100-10 example, what does the 100 mean? Is that team X has a 100% chance to sign the guy, and then the 10 would be team Y has a 10% chance to sign the prospect? I'm pretty sure thats not how probability works...

Gibberish.