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So, after blowing a 12 point lead with 9:30 left, I've been thinking. Had I actually been sitting on the bench, directing my team, I think I'd have been frantically coaching. Trying something different than "fairly fresh" substitutions in an effort to save the win. Not sure if any option would have worked but it would have been nice to have something at the ready.

I realize we aren't getting any new options but, in the rare chance someone peeks in, what would you like? I'm thinking:

1. Defensive team. Just my best defensive team as the clock winds down with a good lead.
2. Free throw team. Best FT shooters when it's obvious the other team will foul.
3. Three team. Dude dropping long-range bombs when that's the only hope of getting back in the game.

2/20/2018 6:09 PM
I'd like a designated defender. For example, my great defending SF can follow the other team's great scoring SG around the court no matter what position the SG is at.

I'm sure this is easier in theory than in the program, considering the fact that the programmer would probably have to make major changes to the press and zone coding. But it's the feature I'd most like to see.
2/20/2018 6:41 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 2/20/2018 6:41:00 PM (view original):
I'd like a designated defender. For example, my great defending SF can follow the other team's great scoring SG around the court no matter what position the SG is at.

I'm sure this is easier in theory than in the program, considering the fact that the programmer would probably have to make major changes to the press and zone coding. But it's the feature I'd most like to see.
Sounds good in theory, but would require a rework of the whole defensive concept to implement without causing major imbalance. Implementing it across all defensive sets wouldn’t work because you’re asking that guy to play man, while the rest of the team plays zone or press. And if it’s just a feature available for man, man defense would be super powered.
2/20/2018 7:06 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/20/2018 6:09:00 PM (view original):
So, after blowing a 12 point lead with 9:30 left, I've been thinking. Had I actually been sitting on the bench, directing my team, I think I'd have been frantically coaching. Trying something different than "fairly fresh" substitutions in an effort to save the win. Not sure if any option would have worked but it would have been nice to have something at the ready.

I realize we aren't getting any new options but, in the rare chance someone peeks in, what would you like? I'm thinking:

1. Defensive team. Just my best defensive team as the clock winds down with a good lead.
2. Free throw team. Best FT shooters when it's obvious the other team will foul.
3. Three team. Dude dropping long-range bombs when that's the only hope of getting back in the game.

I like all three suggestions, especially the ft team. Just a little more flexibility on the depth chart (why not 5 deep?) and game plan options would add a lot.
2/20/2018 7:08 PM
I think we need to suspend more reality if we're going to have a discussion. A) We're not getting anything B) Since we're not getting anything, whether or not it's possible to program shouldn't matter. So I'll ignore all but the last sentence.

And if it’s just a feature available for man, man defense would be super powered.

I don't think so. You see the other team has been using his super defender to guard the best scorer and adjust distribution. If your guy is only going to take 3 shots, who cares who guards him? I like the idea.


2/20/2018 7:11 PM
Pretty much the only thing I liked about GD is that the game sims in halves (1st half at 2am, 2nd half at 2pm). It gave you the opportunity to adjust your lineup & gameplan based off of what happened in the 1st half. I’ve have games where I was up 30-40 points, so I put a lot of young guys in for experience. If my QB was playing like sh*t, he got benched. Being able to do something like that in HD would be awesome.
2/20/2018 9:13 PM
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/20/2018 6:09:00 PM (view original):
So, after blowing a 12 point lead with 9:30 left, I've been thinking. Had I actually been sitting on the bench, directing my team, I think I'd have been frantically coaching. Trying something different than "fairly fresh" substitutions in an effort to save the win. Not sure if any option would have worked but it would have been nice to have something at the ready.

I realize we aren't getting any new options but, in the rare chance someone peeks in, what would you like? I'm thinking:

1. Defensive team. Just my best defensive team as the clock winds down with a good lead.
2. Free throw team. Best FT shooters when it's obvious the other team will foul.
3. Three team. Dude dropping long-range bombs when that's the only hope of getting back in the game.

It would certainly liven up the forums, giving three new things to argue about.
2/21/2018 1:17 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/20/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
I think we need to suspend more reality if we're going to have a discussion. A) We're not getting anything B) Since we're not getting anything, whether or not it's possible to program shouldn't matter. So I'll ignore all but the last sentence.

And if it’s just a feature available for man, man defense would be super powered.

I don't think so. You see the other team has been using his super defender to guard the best scorer and adjust distribution. If your guy is only going to take 3 shots, who cares who guards him? I like the idea.


So the solution to stop the designated defender from shutting down your best scorer is to...shut him down?
2/21/2018 2:52 AM
Posted by kingsallday on 2/21/2018 2:52:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/20/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
I think we need to suspend more reality if we're going to have a discussion. A) We're not getting anything B) Since we're not getting anything, whether or not it's possible to program shouldn't matter. So I'll ignore all but the last sentence.

And if it’s just a feature available for man, man defense would be super powered.

I don't think so. You see the other team has been using his super defender to guard the best scorer and adjust distribution. If your guy is only going to take 3 shots, who cares who guards him? I like the idea.


So the solution to stop the designated defender from shutting down your best scorer is to...shut him down?
If you feel this suggested option would "super power" M2M and you think the opponent's best defender would shut down your top scorer, sure. Ramming your head into a brick wall is not the best way to get to the other side.
2/21/2018 4:39 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/21/2018 4:39:00 AM (view original):
Posted by kingsallday on 2/21/2018 2:52:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/20/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
I think we need to suspend more reality if we're going to have a discussion. A) We're not getting anything B) Since we're not getting anything, whether or not it's possible to program shouldn't matter. So I'll ignore all but the last sentence.

And if it’s just a feature available for man, man defense would be super powered.

I don't think so. You see the other team has been using his super defender to guard the best scorer and adjust distribution. If your guy is only going to take 3 shots, who cares who guards him? I like the idea.


So the solution to stop the designated defender from shutting down your best scorer is to...shut him down?
If you feel this suggested option would "super power" M2M and you think the opponent's best defender would shut down your top scorer, sure. Ramming your head into a brick wall is not the best way to get to the other side.
It’s giving man an advantage other sets don’t have. It creates imbalance. I wouldn’t support this on its own. But after thinking a little about it, since this is all make-believe with no expectations, I think there would be ways to add features to each, and allow users to customize defenses. But it would involve one key programming change, which is to allow players to develop defensive IQs apart from team set practice. Then you could have more combos like box and 1, diamond and 1, triangle and 2, etc. You could add concepts like trapping and doubling, to enhance certain players’ skills. There would be some potential there, but it would complicate the game, which is a negative for some.
2/21/2018 10:41 AM
You'd still have to have the super defender and have to utilize him properly. One upside would be that offenses might become more balanced to offset the SD. Rather than one guy scoring 18 and no one else above 8, teams might have 2 or 3 averaging double digits. I'm just not sure I understand the full advantage M2M would have. It would have an option the 2 other D do not but it's just an option.
2/21/2018 10:45 AM
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/21/2018 10:45:00 AM (view original):
You'd still have to have the super defender and have to utilize him properly. One upside would be that offenses might become more balanced to offset the SD. Rather than one guy scoring 18 and no one else above 8, teams might have 2 or 3 averaging double digits. I'm just not sure I understand the full advantage M2M would have. It would have an option the 2 other D do not but it's just an option.
Just so we’re on the same page, I mean balance between relative power of the defenses, not a gameplanning balance between opponents. Would you keep playing zone or press if this change was made? I wouldn’t.
2/21/2018 11:03 AM
I can't say for sure. There would only be so many SD to go around. If everyone goes M2M, it creates a market imbalance so I'd think recruiting would be easier for press/zone since virtually everyone is playing man.
2/21/2018 11:11 AM
Posted by MWalpole on 2/20/2018 9:14:00 PM (view original):
Pretty much the only thing I liked about GD is that the game sims in halves (1st half at 2am, 2nd half at 2pm). It gave you the opportunity to adjust your lineup & gameplan based off of what happened in the 1st half. I’ve have games where I was up 30-40 points, so I put a lot of young guys in for experience. If my QB was playing like sh*t, he got benched. Being able to do something like that in HD would be awesome.
Completely agree with this. I'm sure some users in 2-a-day worlds may be frustrated by the idea of having to check 4 times a day instead of twice a day, but this is what made me [briefly] love GD.
2/21/2018 4:29 PM
Posted by l80r20 on 2/21/2018 1:18:00 AM (view original):
Posted by MikeT23 on 2/20/2018 6:09:00 PM (view original):
So, after blowing a 12 point lead with 9:30 left, I've been thinking. Had I actually been sitting on the bench, directing my team, I think I'd have been frantically coaching. Trying something different than "fairly fresh" substitutions in an effort to save the win. Not sure if any option would have worked but it would have been nice to have something at the ready.

I realize we aren't getting any new options but, in the rare chance someone peeks in, what would you like? I'm thinking:

1. Defensive team. Just my best defensive team as the clock winds down with a good lead.
2. Free throw team. Best FT shooters when it's obvious the other team will foul.
3. Three team. Dude dropping long-range bombs when that's the only hope of getting back in the game.

It would certainly liven up the forums, giving three new things to argue about.
hi spud.

these are three really good ideas. if only someone was paying attention....
2/21/2018 5:21 PM
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