is this fair? D1 coach moves to D3 Topic

So I have come across an interesting case in recruiting. In the first session I saw human coached B prestige D1 team recruit several guys that I thought were not D1 caliber players, I thought this was odd. None of the players were offered scholarships for a good period of time, so I started to put AP into them to unlock scholarships and such. But, when I offered scholarships and even promised minutes I could not get above very low. So obviously there had been effort put in by the school, but no offered scholarship. I hesitate to put money into this recruit and since I can’t get off of very low I assume that the school wants the player and is just waiting for the scholarship offer. The players are offered scholarships before the end of the first session

Second session I have not had much success in recruiting. I have been forced to go to my backup options and without any scouting money to find new recruits I am forced to spend all of my money to battle with a D2 team for the only remaining decent guard recruit that doesn’t have a D1 team on them. I lose the battle. I scour my recruits for another option, and notice that the B prestige D1 team didn’t sign the guys that they were recruiting in the second session, when the guys were all first session preferences. I see that they had already filled all of their scholarships. I think “I am going to get these guys after all”. But then I look at the considering list, and all of the guys have a D3 team that I had never heard of before. It’s a team with a new coach, with a bunch empty scholarships, so a bunch of money. This team moves up to low, and because I don’t have any money left I can’t do anything about it. I notice that the D1 team is no longer human coached. Then I look to see where this mysterious D3 coach came from, and he came from the B prestige D1 school who was on them in the first session.

The D3 team is in Ohio, and every player he is signing is out west, where the D1 team was.
7/7/2018 6:13 PM (edited)
Report that ****
7/7/2018 6:13 PM
Recruiting ends tonight. I don’t think I will get justice here. There is still one guy who hasn’t signed yet because the D1 team is still VH and the D3 team is low, and I can’t get above VL.
7/7/2018 6:28 PM
Report it anyway. These are the sort of shenanigans that *probably* violate fair play guidelines, and when we see it, we need to raise the ticket. Send the coach, the players, etc to CS.
7/7/2018 6:50 PM
7/7/2018 7:04 PM
Posted by MWalpole on 7/7/2018 7:04:00 PM (view original):
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=12581

school/coach in question btw...
Correct. How did you determine that?
7/7/2018 7:11 PM
I sitemailed him asking for an explanation. He left me on read.
7/7/2018 9:03 PM
Did you send a ticket?
7/7/2018 9:14 PM
Posted by MonsterTurtl on 7/7/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MWalpole on 7/7/2018 7:04:00 PM (view original):
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=12581

school/coach in question btw...
Correct. How did you determine that?
I’m also in Tark (so I knew recruiting ends tonight) and I looked at the 3 vacant B prestige D1 schools without a coach. Found him and his new team pretty easily. This can’t even be construed as a coincidence lol he definitely planned that.
7/7/2018 9:36 PM
Some of that Donald Trump the businessman type of ****.
7/7/2018 9:44 PM
Posted by shoe3 on 7/7/2018 9:14:00 PM (view original):
Did you send a ticket?
I did
7/7/2018 10:11 PM
Posted by MWalpole on 7/7/2018 9:36:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MonsterTurtl on 7/7/2018 7:11:00 PM (view original):
Posted by MWalpole on 7/7/2018 7:04:00 PM (view original):
https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/TeamProfile/Ratings.aspx?tid=12581

school/coach in question btw...
Correct. How did you determine that?
I’m also in Tark (so I knew recruiting ends tonight) and I looked at the 3 vacant B prestige D1 schools without a coach. Found him and his new team pretty easily. This can’t even be construed as a coincidence lol he definitely planned that.
That’s some high key detective work right there. Well done.
7/7/2018 10:11 PM
But what rule is he actually breaking here? He recruits players with his D1 school, but decided to move to D3 and target the same recruits. I agree that it’s sketchy though but not sure if it’s breaking any fairplay guidelines if he’s using only one account to accomplish all this
7/7/2018 11:16 PM
Posted by zagsrulez on 7/7/2018 11:16:00 PM (view original):
But what rule is he actually breaking here? He recruits players with his D1 school, but decided to move to D3 and target the same recruits. I agree that it’s sketchy though but not sure if it’s breaking any fairplay guidelines if he’s using only one account to accomplish all this
That is what I was attempting to figure out. I thought that it broke some rule but I was not sure. To me it does not seem fair, whether it breaks a rule or not.

I worked it out with him and he ended up rescinding his scholarship offer on the player in question (though the delayed final period signings leave me not totally at ease). He admitted to recruiting out West because that’s where the recruits he knew were, why start over? It seems to me like he was not recruiting in advance as I originally thought, though he certainly reaped the rewards of his previous actions.

CS still has not responded to my ticket.
7/8/2018 12:10 AM
It’s worth reporting, and having CS look at. The fair play principle is that two teams should not be in collusion to manufacture a certain result. Can you be in collusion with yourself? Well yeah, I don’t think the technicality that it was the same account would nullify that concern. Two teams managed by the same person should not have overlapping scouting, shouldn’t be intentionally targeting the same guy(s). As Mr.Turtl notes, he definitely *could* benefit from scaring away early lower level competition. Of course, the way it plays out could be that the D1 effort will be picked up by SimAI, and they’ll walk away with the recruit anyway. It’s not a foolproof plan, which is probably why there’s no structural barrier.

Nevertheless, it bears reporting, and having CS look at the action, to make a FPG determination.
7/8/2018 1:20 AM
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