I'm sorry but this new recruiting system is pure BS.

I'm at a D-3 program. I'm recruiting now 4 D-1 ranked players, all of them with position rankings, and only one of them has any contact with a D1 or D2 school. And I see several "D1 recruits" that I wouldn't consider for a D-3 program.

Further, none of these ranked players will be good enough to come into my program and make an impact. And pretty much every roster in the D3 top 25 is stacked with ranked D1 recruits.

It should be next to impossible to land a D1 recruit period, maybe 1 or 2 per roster. It should be a long shot with a big risk and very little reward. As it stands right now, it's shooting fish in a barrel. I pick the recruit I want, wait til the last day of signing period 2 and voila roster full of D1 players.

Yea, well a lot of those D1 players aren't very good. Rankings are pretty meaningless. Also, a lot of time if the player is halfway decent a higher division team will come and snatch them up with ease.

I mainly recruit high potential D2, people can keep the red and yellow d1s.

The net effect of what you’re calling for is a lot more frustration for a lot more players. Right now, D3 coaches have access to players that higher level *human controlled* teams are passing on, or at least not prioritizing. D3 gets leftovers. If SimAI recruited more intelligently - targeted better players and better preference matches, offered promises, etc - the leftovers wouldn’t be as good and human coaches would get beaten by sims more often. I am skeptical that this would make the game more attractive or enjoyable.

If you’re bothered by “fish in a barrel”, find another way to play. Scout and recruit D2 players instead, or move up a level or two.

Posted by iamjoeyd on 7/30/2018 1:58:00 PM (view original):
I'm sorry but this new recruiting system is pure BS.

I'm at a D-3 program. I'm recruiting now 4 D-1 ranked players, all of them with position rankings, and only one of them has any contact with a D1 or D2 school. And I see several "D1 recruits" that I wouldn't consider for a D-3 program.

Further, none of these ranked players will be good enough to come into my program and make an impact. And pretty much every roster in the D3 top 25 is stacked with ranked D1 recruits.

It should be next to impossible to land a D1 recruit period, maybe 1 or 2 per roster. It should be a long shot with a big risk and very little reward. As it stands right now, it's shooting fish in a barrel. I pick the recruit I want, wait til the last day of signing period 2 and voila roster full of D1 players.

D3 recruiting is terrible. Snoozefest.

D2 is much better. I'd try that out if I were you.

I also feel like the game is set up for full worlds, and that just doesn't happen. If a D1 world had 300+ humans, there's no way that type of talent would fall to D3. But with unpopulated worlds, it's easier to grab better players.

But there are many different strategies to play, recruit, and win. I recommend moving up to D2 as well. I think it's a little less of a crapshoot. And RS1 recruiting matters a lot more that it does in D3 in my opinion.

Posted by shoe3 on 7/30/2018 2:27:00 PM (view original):
The net effect of what you’re calling for is a lot more frustration for a lot more players. Right now, D3 coaches have access to players that higher level *human controlled* teams are passing on, or at least not prioritizing. D3 gets leftovers. If SimAI recruited more intelligently - targeted better players and better preference matches, offered promises, etc - the leftovers wouldn’t be as good and human coaches would get beaten by sims more often. I am skeptical that this would make the game more attractive or enjoyable.

If you’re bothered by “fish in a barrel”, find another way to play. Scout and recruit D2 players instead, or move up a level or two.

I'd like to see the Sims recruit better. I'd also like to see the players assigned more realistically. Another thing, shrink the recruiting pool. Make it so low level D1 schools have to recruit some D2 players.Instead of having 1100? players in each division, have only 700 players designated D1, 1000 D2 and 1600 D3s.

That way all the D1 prospects would be being recruited by D1 schools. You could take your chances if you wanted and you could still in theory land one but it wouldn't be an every day thing. It would put emphasis on recruiting early at the D2 and D3 levels because if you didn't sign your high regarded recruits early, in stage 2 a higher level program may come after them. That's how the game of basketball actually works.

this would all be very different if the game was better populated

Posted by metsmax on 7/30/2018 5:06:00 PM (view original):
this would all be very different if the game was better populated

And far worse, in my opinion. DI recruiting with 200+ teams would be a disaster unless recruit gen is seriously revamped.

Posted by johnsensing on 7/30/2018 5:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by metsmax on 7/30/2018 5:06:00 PM (view original):
this would all be very different if the game was better populated

And far worse, in my opinion. DI recruiting with 200+ teams would be a disaster unless recruit gen is seriously revamped.

No, we would all have to learn to coach better. In the real world of college recruiting you can't find perfect cookie cutter players. You take what you can get and make the best out of them.

Posted by johnsensing on 7/30/2018 5:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by metsmax on 7/30/2018 5:06:00 PM (view original):
this would all be very different if the game was better populated

And far worse, in my opinion. DI recruiting with 200+ teams would be a disaster unless recruit gen is seriously revamped.

I see what you're saying. But I don't think it would be a disaster. It would just put more emphasis on the star recruits, and teams would be watered down some compared to what they are now. But all would suffer (if that's the word we wanna use) equally.

It would be similar to the difference between an 8 team fantasy football league and a 14 team league. I think the better coaches would win at the highest level more often. And the mediocre coaches would stay mediocre. I don't think that's what WifS wants tho. Isn't that why 3.0 became what it is?

Posted by johnsensing on 7/30/2018 5:43:00 PM (view original):

Posted by metsmax on 7/30/2018 5:06:00 PM (view original):
this would all be very different if the game was better populated

And far worse, in my opinion. DI recruiting with 200+ teams would be a disaster unless recruit gen is seriously revamped.

I used to be against this point of view but I've come around. HD 1.0 allowed for near-100% capacity because each recruit could be custom built. 2.0 allowed for as many humans as could tolerate the stratified conferences due to prestige/post-season cash. 3.0, as it is currently written, only works because of all the empty spaces. If they ever do another update, and nail it, HD 4.0 will have one coach in California and the other in Florida or New York...playing in the Championship game every season.

Dunno, lots of sims in D2 have ranked D1 players. Usually not a player ranked overall, but lots by position. Sims can recruit late now--used to be they would spend their money early. Makes sense for HD to have better sims, so as to attract new coaches to take these promising D3 sim teams, and for coaches to move up to D2 to a decent team, not one they have to build almost from Ground Zero. There are much fewer walkons than in Version 2 days, but still some bad sim teams, or teams losing five starting seniors for a coach that wants a rebuild.

If the sim logic would at least prevent teams from having 9 walk-ons, that would be nice.

Posted by gdog13cavs on 8/1/2018 1:15:00 AM (view original):
If the sim logic would at least prevent teams from having 9 walk-ons, that would be nice.

I love the 9 walk on teams lol makes taking them over easier. Let them all walk, start your recruiting with a massive budget. But if I’m not taking the team over, yes...they really should get rid of this kind of team. It’s half the reason I’m afraid to leave my Mount St. Mary’s team. They’re a B prestige and if/when I leave, they won’t be able to bring in a player for like 3 seasons because they’ll keep shooting too high for recruits. That’s the unfortunate reality of the game at the moment.