Curious what our Leftists posters would do about it if they were Potus.

Thoughts?
10/26/2018 10:35 AM
Line them up for LEGAL immigration. I’d try to expedite the process but they ABSOLUTELY have to get in line. I’d deploy military to protect from ILLEGAL entry AND to help in processing and care for refugees. I’d want CONFIRMED identities and if you can’t be confirmed you get turned back around. We can be compassionate and still maintain our border. It shouldn’t be so difficult. This shouldn’t be partisan. We are a country of immigrants and we should all remember that we were ALL once them in some way.
10/26/2018 11:09 AM
So who takes care of them while they hang-out at the boarder for years?

As uncompassionate as it sounds, we need to send them away. A precedent will be set here, and the World is watching.
Whatever we give this caravan, we're going to need to give the next caravan, and the one after that, and the dozens after that.
We were NOT ALL like them. The overwhelming majority of our ancestors came here legally - they didn't just show-up demanding to be allowed in.
10/26/2018 11:42 AM
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/26/2018 10:35:00 AM (view original):
Curious what our Leftists posters would do about it if they were Potus.

Thoughts?
It’s a non-story. Who gives a ****? If I were POTUS, I’d do nothing. They can apply for asylum. The ones that credibly need asylum get in, the rest are denied.

This is nothing more than Trump trying to distract his base from the facts that the tax cut isn’t very popular and that the GOP tried to take away the ACA.
10/26/2018 12:53 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 10/26/2018 12:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/26/2018 10:35:00 AM (view original):
Curious what our Leftists posters would do about it if they were Potus.

Thoughts?
It’s a non-story. Who gives a ****? If I were POTUS, I’d do nothing. They can apply for asylum. The ones that credibly need asylum get in, the rest are denied.

This is nothing more than Trump trying to distract his base from the facts that the tax cut isn’t very popular and that the GOP tried to take away the ACA.
So when 14k march in how would you stop them? The tax cut is indeed very popular, hence the hihger aproval ratings and ACA needs to be repealed and replaced.
10/26/2018 12:55 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/26/2018 12:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/26/2018 12:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/26/2018 10:35:00 AM (view original):
Curious what our Leftists posters would do about it if they were Potus.

Thoughts?
It’s a non-story. Who gives a ****? If I were POTUS, I’d do nothing. They can apply for asylum. The ones that credibly need asylum get in, the rest are denied.

This is nothing more than Trump trying to distract his base from the facts that the tax cut isn’t very popular and that the GOP tried to take away the ACA.
So when 14k march in how would you stop them? The tax cut is indeed very popular, hence the hihger aproval ratings and ACA needs to be repealed and replaced.
March in? They walk to the border. There are border patrol agents at the port of entry. They won't be allowed in. Again, it's a non-story that Trump is using as a distraction.

The tax cut is unpopular, it's why Trump is lying about a new middle class tax cut for before the election.

It's a complete lie though. Congress won't be in session to pass any laws between now and the election.

Once again, Trump is a liar.

Also, the ACA is incredibly popular and should not be repealed. The GOP knows it, which is why a bunch of congressional candidates are promising to protect pre-existing condition coverage.

Which is also a lie.

In general, the GOP sucks.
10/26/2018 12:58 PM
I tend to agree with BL on this one. BUT, the fact is (IMO) we should shut down all immigration save for specific folks with expertise usable for National priorities (like Defense, Science, etc).

IF we didn't have such a large LEGAL immigration policy there wouldn't be "caravans" of immigrants wanting in. They'd KNOW it's not gonna happen.
Our continent is now full enough from sea to shining sea. We don't need more population. Shut the borders except for rare cases and ALLOW easy to obtain green/work cards for those folks willing to do jobs we won't (like picking lettuce, cherries, apples, peaches, pears, etc!!)

Liberal enough for you'se guys? (Boris and All3) :-)
10/26/2018 1:01 PM (edited)
Posted by all3 on 10/26/2018 11:42:00 AM (view original):
So who takes care of them while they hang-out at the boarder for years?

As uncompassionate as it sounds, we need to send them away. A precedent will be set here, and the World is watching.
Whatever we give this caravan, we're going to need to give the next caravan, and the one after that, and the dozens after that.
We were NOT ALL like them. The overwhelming majority of our ancestors came here legally - they didn't just show-up demanding to be allowed in.
Why do assume they are coming here illegally? Unless you're a full-blood Native American then you're an immigrant. There is ZERO difference from this current "caravan" and the boats filled with myriads of Italians, Polish, Irish and other ethnicities that flowed across the Atlantic for decades. Those people sought refuge and a better life and they WERE NOT turned away. I can't imagine that the logistics of providing emergency facilities for 3,000 people are that great. Especially when we support the situation properly with a both a military and humanitarian face. Our borders should be open, but completely secure. There is a process. There is a line. If proper resources are committed beyond partisan lines there is NO reason that this grand goal, one at the foundation of our nation, should not be achieved.
10/26/2018 1:00 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 10/26/2018 12:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/26/2018 12:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/26/2018 12:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/26/2018 10:35:00 AM (view original):
Curious what our Leftists posters would do about it if they were Potus.

Thoughts?
It’s a non-story. Who gives a ****? If I were POTUS, I’d do nothing. They can apply for asylum. The ones that credibly need asylum get in, the rest are denied.

This is nothing more than Trump trying to distract his base from the facts that the tax cut isn’t very popular and that the GOP tried to take away the ACA.
So when 14k march in how would you stop them? The tax cut is indeed very popular, hence the hihger aproval ratings and ACA needs to be repealed and replaced.
March in? They walk to the border. There are border patrol agents at the port of entry. They won't be allowed in. Again, it's a non-story that Trump is using as a distraction.

The tax cut is unpopular, it's why Trump is lying about a new middle class tax cut for before the election.

It's a complete lie though. Congress won't be in session to pass any laws between now and the election.

Once again, Trump is a liar.

Also, the ACA is incredibly popular and should not be repealed. The GOP knows it, which is why a bunch of congressional candidates are promising to protect pre-existing condition coverage.

Which is also a lie.

In general, the GOP sucks.
#1) They marched past the fence in Mexico if they attempt to overrun what would you do?

#2) It is not unpopular. Look at the job growth and CAPEX spend.

#3) He is lying? How?

#4) ACA is not popular. Maybe in CA.

#5) In your opinion as you're a Leftist.

10/26/2018 1:01 PM
Posted by laramiebob on 10/26/2018 12:59:00 PM (view original):
I tend to agree with BL on this one. BUT, the fact is (IMO) we should shut down all immigration save for specific folks with expertise usable for National priorities (like Defense, Science, etc).

IF we didn't have such a large LEGAL immigration policy there wouldn't be "caravans" of immigrants wanting in. They'd KNOW it's not gonna happen.
Our continent is know full enough from sea to shining sea. We don't need more population. Shut the borders except for rare cases and ALLOW easy to obtain green/work cards for those folks willing to do jobs we won't (like picking lettuce, cherries, apples, peaches, pears, etc!!)

Liberal enough for you'se guys? (Boris and All3) :-)
Um...the health of our economy and social safety nets rely heavily on the population growth that comes from legal and illegal immigrants.
10/26/2018 1:01 PM
Posted by laramiebob on 10/26/2018 1:01:00 PM (view original):
I tend to agree with BL on this one. BUT, the fact is (IMO) we should shut down all immigration save for specific folks with expertise usable for National priorities (like Defense, Science, etc).

IF we didn't have such a large LEGAL immigration policy there wouldn't be "caravans" of immigrants wanting in. They'd KNOW it's not gonna happen.
Our continent is now full enough from sea to shining sea. We don't need more population. Shut the borders except for rare cases and ALLOW easy to obtain green/work cards for those folks willing to do jobs we won't (like picking lettuce, cherries, apples, peaches, pears, etc!!)

Liberal enough for you'se guys? (Boris and All3) :-)
I like it. Thank you.
10/26/2018 1:02 PM
Posted by bad_luck on 10/26/2018 1:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by laramiebob on 10/26/2018 12:59:00 PM (view original):
I tend to agree with BL on this one. BUT, the fact is (IMO) we should shut down all immigration save for specific folks with expertise usable for National priorities (like Defense, Science, etc).

IF we didn't have such a large LEGAL immigration policy there wouldn't be "caravans" of immigrants wanting in. They'd KNOW it's not gonna happen.
Our continent is know full enough from sea to shining sea. We don't need more population. Shut the borders except for rare cases and ALLOW easy to obtain green/work cards for those folks willing to do jobs we won't (like picking lettuce, cherries, apples, peaches, pears, etc!!)

Liberal enough for you'se guys? (Boris and All3) :-)
Um...the health of our economy and social safety nets rely heavily on the population growth that comes from legal and illegal immigrants.
No that is simply not true. In fact we need to deport as many people as we can. We are running a deficit and have $22Trn in debt.
10/26/2018 1:03 PM
"Um...the health of our economy and social safety nets rely heavily on the population growth that comes from legal and illegal immigrants."

It HAS in the past!!! We breed plenty. We don't NEED extra (artificial) population growth. Overpopulation is ONE of the BIGGEST future problems the Globe faces. You can't be gung-ho for attacking climate change and IGNORE overpopulation and be a good environmentalist OR Liberal IMO.
10/26/2018 1:05 PM
I kinda think if we can stick 100,000 people in a stadium for a football game and call it "safe" that we ought to be able to snap things up with border processing a little bit. How about making it a bi-partisan priority. The same as it should be a bi-partisan priority to usher out anyone here illegally and send them to the back of the line with a major strike against them. This isn't difficult. It's called rational compromise.
10/26/2018 1:05 PM
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/26/2018 1:01:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/26/2018 12:58:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/26/2018 12:55:00 PM (view original):
Posted by bad_luck on 10/26/2018 12:53:00 PM (view original):
Posted by cccp1014 on 10/26/2018 10:35:00 AM (view original):
Curious what our Leftists posters would do about it if they were Potus.

Thoughts?
It’s a non-story. Who gives a ****? If I were POTUS, I’d do nothing. They can apply for asylum. The ones that credibly need asylum get in, the rest are denied.

This is nothing more than Trump trying to distract his base from the facts that the tax cut isn’t very popular and that the GOP tried to take away the ACA.
So when 14k march in how would you stop them? The tax cut is indeed very popular, hence the hihger aproval ratings and ACA needs to be repealed and replaced.
March in? They walk to the border. There are border patrol agents at the port of entry. They won't be allowed in. Again, it's a non-story that Trump is using as a distraction.

The tax cut is unpopular, it's why Trump is lying about a new middle class tax cut for before the election.

It's a complete lie though. Congress won't be in session to pass any laws between now and the election.

Once again, Trump is a liar.

Also, the ACA is incredibly popular and should not be repealed. The GOP knows it, which is why a bunch of congressional candidates are promising to protect pre-existing condition coverage.

Which is also a lie.

In general, the GOP sucks.
#1) They marched past the fence in Mexico if they attempt to overrun what would you do?

#2) It is not unpopular. Look at the job growth and CAPEX spend.

#3) He is lying? How?

#4) ACA is not popular. Maybe in CA.

#5) In your opinion as you're a Leftist.

1) There is no fence on the southern Mexico boarder. Anyone can walk from Guatemala to Mexico.

2) "The theory behind the tax cut was that it would unleash a huge wave of business investment, financed by massive capital inflows. And there's still no sign that this is happening: business investment as a share of GDP"



"To fulfill the promises of the tax cutters, this number would have to surge by several percent of GDP. In fact, it's no higher than it was in the middle Obama or late Bush years. The tax cut isn't delivering the promised goods "

3) He is saying they will pass a middle class tax cut prior to the election. It's literally impossible to do that because congress isn't in session.

4) It's more popular that Trump. Look at the polling. 54% are in favor of it now.

5) Yes, but also backed by the actions of the ****** GOP.
10/26/2018 1:06 PM
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