PHASE THREE:
Can't happen cuz it downgrades Fresno State, while upgrading TCU.

Complete the Big XII.

- move TCU (5 owners) to the Big XII.
- move Colorado (9 owners) to the Pac-10.
- move Fresno State (3 owners) to the Mountain West.

PHASE FOUR:
Downgrades Hawaii, upgrades Utah.

Completes the Pac-12 and the Mountain West (gets all its real life 11 teams, plus keeps Denver)..

- move Utah (4 owners) to the Pac-12.
- move Hawaii (9 owners) to the Big West.
- move Utah State (3 owners) to the Mountain West.

Anyway, I'm not recommending doing this cuz if affects too many people, but since i did the research i figured i might as well share it.

After completing these 4 scenarios these conferences would be correct:
- ACC.
- SEC.
- BIG TEN.
- BIG 12.
- PAC 12.
- MOUNTAIN WEST.

Downgrades would occur with:
- Hawaii.
- Fresno State.

Upgrades would occur with:
- Utah.
- TCU.

Posted by npb7768 on 3/22/2019 6:45:00 PM (view original):
So, i would really like to see HD realignment, but i think it would be impossible because too many people would be affected, and itvwould require unanimous approval for itvto go forward.

Having said that, in a perfect world where realignment would be considered, i came up with 2 possibilities:

1. Wholesale realignment, which I've posted in the past, maintaining 12 team conferences, and working with historic ties. But impossiblevto implement.

2. The second, more limited realignment would be difficult again based on irritating too many people, but would have played out in this way:

2a. The goal of limited realignment would be to make the Big-6 conferences as close to real life as possible.

2b. Of the current HD Big-6 conferences, i think the ACC and the SEC are as good as can be. Both have their first 12 members in their HD conferences.

2c. So if we look at the other 4 conferences, their is one quick 3-team swap that can complete the B1G withbtheir original 12 real life members, and get the Big-12 only 1 team away, while helping out the Big East membership as well. This scenario would not downgrade any school:

PHASE ONE:
No school is downgraded, BIG-6 swap 1 team each.
- move Nebraska to the Big Ten.
- move Notre Dame to the Big East.
- move West Virginia to the Big XII.

So i looked up ownership (as of Wednesday) of each school throughout all 10 HD Worlds:

The sheer quantity of owners would make these changes impossible really.

- Notre Dame is owned in 9 Worlds.
- West Virginia is owned in 9 Worlds also.
- Nebraska is owned in 4 Worlds.

Notre Dame owners include:
radarpix - 2 years.
cjwolf - 2 years.
bretodonnell - 71 YEARS!!!
derek_koenig - 7 years.
wvufan - 1 year.
mlitney - 2 years.
alebear - 9 years.
ecwalker - 1 year.
justifiedky - 3 years.

West Virginia owners iinclude:
wvufan - 30 years.
gigrant - 8 years.
coachpaul - 13 years.
rsvphr - 19 years.
lanceeod - 15 years.
jaif31 - 4 years.
bcnopolis - 26 years.
dbcha - 13 years.
dabomb163783 - 63 YEARS!!!

Nebraska owners include:
emorust - 5 years.
theluke - 5 years.
zeg723 - 2 years.
ghuttong - 1 year.

PHASE TWO:
No school is downgraded.
Swap 3 WCC's for 3 Mountain West schools:
- move San Jose State (3 owners) to the MW.
- move Boise (5 owners) to the MW.
- move Nevada (4 owners) to the MW.
while at the same time:
- move BYU (4 owners) to the WCC.
- move North Texas (3 owners) to the WCC.
- move Texas Southern (0 owners) to the WCC, and re-name St Mary's cuz zero owners.

San Jose is owned by:
chadwell - 10 years.
jmekelson - 6 years.
seble - 103 years!!!

Boise is owned by:
pnedwek - 2 years.
oldmansons - 3 years.
kwelsh - 9 years.
tcole - 28 years.
ppk700 - 3 years.

Nevada is owned by:
gordonbops - 18 years.
iccoachb - 47 years.
indiansrck - 2 years.
flemingtime - 76 YEARS!!!

North Texas is owned by:
sionnach - 4 years.
mroylane - 13 years.
bigsmoperkon - 5 years.

BYU is owned by:
wronoj - 10 years.
wedgeva - 8 years.
bad_luck - 4 yearsyears.
rmdlwa - 24 years.

Texas Southern:
no owners.
change name to St Mary's.

These two phases would complete the Big Ten, get 11 of 12 from the Big-12, and put the Irish in the Big East (more hoops history) than in the Big Ten.

Anyway, i had done all this work, so figured I'd post it, even though all these owners won't be able to agree on the changes. Might spark some other ideas.

PHASE THREE WILL FOLLOW...

What about low majors.

You have already spent more time on this subject than the developers ever will

Yeah. In my perfect world we'd be able to stay current with conferences in real life. But, I wouldn't really be interested in half measures, removing/renaming teams, only moving some but not others etc isn't something I'd be that interested in.

That is a ton of work involved. And mully has the best response. You spent a ton of time on that. And the site never will. And that added up to around 50 to 60 coaches involved. I can't speak for everyone that they would be upset about it, but I would assume most would have an issue with some aspect of it all.

interesting ideas tho

Things i didn't expect in getting this information:

- West Virginia owners are pretty loyal. 7 of the 9 Mountaineer owners have been there 13 or more years.

- Notre Dame owners are mostly new to owning the Irish, except for Bret O'Donnell at 73 seasons.

- Hawaii is owned in 9 Worlds...

Just out of curiosity, i'd like to know how many owners of these teams would be willing to switch conferences. Prob no more than 10%.

Realigning doesn’t make sense for the same reason “updates” on baseline prestige don’t make sense. Real life changes, often. Once these worlds launched, they were a universe of themselves, and they’re now all over 100 seasons in. Imposing real life changes onto them at this point doesn’t add much positive. Considering that we’re still going to have to stay within the 12 team conference convention, it’s not going to happen, and it shouldn’t.

I think making user-driven realignment *possible* via a relegation system (as a sort of alternative to job changes) would add a lot more value to the game. It would also be a lot more work, and is thus little more than a fairy tale wish.

Could always use this as an opportunity to launch a new server. It could be built with more current conferences.

I would support any realignment that makes sense. My Boise St. team in the Mountain West instead of the WCC? Sign me up. I'd miss the great group of coaches in the WCC, but we can still play OOC. And Boise St. isn't a "forever home" for me. I'd also love to have my TCU team in the Big 12, but it would make coaching there far more difficult than it currently is.

I suspect there will be more real-life conference realignment in about 5 years. The Big Ten will probably expand to 16 with Oklahoma and one other. The trickle-down effect that will have is anyone's guess. If Hoops Dynasty still exists in 2025, perhaps a massive in-game realignment would make more sense at that time - if they start planning for it now.

And what to do about the American Athletic Conference? It's not even in Hoops Dynasty, but perhaps it should be.

All that being said, I think little tweaks would make sense - your phase 1 and phase 2 suggestions. I'd be a liar if I said I'm optimistic that any changes will occur, however. But tossing out ideas and having a discussion about them is better than doing nothing.

Posted by ppk700 on 3/23/2019 11:46:00 AM (view original):
I would support any realignment that makes sense. My Boise St. team in the Mountain West instead of the WCC? Sign me up. I'd miss the great group of coaches in the WCC, but we can still play OOC. And Boise St. isn't a "forever home" for me. I'd also love to have my TCU team in the Big 12, but it would make coaching there far more difficult than it currently is.

I suspect there will be more real-life conference realignment in about 5 years. The Big Ten will probably expand to 16 with Oklahoma and one other. The trickle-down effect that will have is anyone's guess. If Hoops Dynasty still exists in 2025, perhaps a massive in-game realignment would make more sense at that time - if they start planning for it now.

And what to do about the American Athletic Conference? It's not even in Hoops Dynasty, but perhaps it should be.

All that being said, I think little tweaks would make sense - your phase 1 and phase 2 suggestions. I'd be a liar if I said I'm optimistic that any changes will occur, however. But tossing out ideas and having a discussion about them is better than doing nothing.

All signs say that Hoops Dynasty will still exist in 2025. Maybe more people will play it even if its declining I don't see it declining.

Posted by dacamel14 on 3/23/2019 11:38:00 AM (view original):
Could always use this as an opportunity to launch a new server. It could be built with more current conferences.

They have too many worlds already.

Posted by WardoYT on 3/23/2019 4:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ppk700 on 3/23/2019 11:46:00 AM (view original):
I would support any realignment that makes sense. My Boise St. team in the Mountain West instead of the WCC? Sign me up. I'd miss the great group of coaches in the WCC, but we can still play OOC. And Boise St. isn't a "forever home" for me. I'd also love to have my TCU team in the Big 12, but it would make coaching there far more difficult than it currently is.

I suspect there will be more real-life conference realignment in about 5 years. The Big Ten will probably expand to 16 with Oklahoma and one other. The trickle-down effect that will have is anyone's guess. If Hoops Dynasty still exists in 2025, perhaps a massive in-game realignment would make more sense at that time - if they start planning for it now.

And what to do about the American Athletic Conference? It's not even in Hoops Dynasty, but perhaps it should be.

All that being said, I think little tweaks would make sense - your phase 1 and phase 2 suggestions. I'd be a liar if I said I'm optimistic that any changes will occur, however. But tossing out ideas and having a discussion about them is better than doing nothing.

All signs say that Hoops Dynasty will still exist in 2025. Maybe more people will play it even if its declining I don't see it declining.

I am optimistic that HD will be around still in 2025!
I was also optimistic that Syracuse would beat Baylor the other night!

Posted by ppk700 on 3/23/2019 6:06:00 PM (view original):

Posted by WardoYT on 3/23/2019 4:10:00 PM (view original):

Posted by ppk700 on 3/23/2019 11:46:00 AM (view original):
I would support any realignment that makes sense. My Boise St. team in the Mountain West instead of the WCC? Sign me up. I'd miss the great group of coaches in the WCC, but we can still play OOC. And Boise St. isn't a "forever home" for me. I'd also love to have my TCU team in the Big 12, but it would make coaching there far more difficult than it currently is.

I suspect there will be more real-life conference realignment in about 5 years. The Big Ten will probably expand to 16 with Oklahoma and one other. The trickle-down effect that will have is anyone's guess. If Hoops Dynasty still exists in 2025, perhaps a massive in-game realignment would make more sense at that time - if they start planning for it now.

And what to do about the American Athletic Conference? It's not even in Hoops Dynasty, but perhaps it should be.

All that being said, I think little tweaks would make sense - your phase 1 and phase 2 suggestions. I'd be a liar if I said I'm optimistic that any changes will occur, however. But tossing out ideas and having a discussion about them is better than doing nothing.

All signs say that Hoops Dynasty will still exist in 2025. Maybe more people will play it even if its declining I don't see it declining.

I am optimistic that HD will be around still in 2025!
I was also optimistic that Syracuse would beat Baylor the other night!

The beauty of the game. Hey how did your drinking game with Hoops Dynasty go?

In my opinion realignment should have been more pinnacle for "real life" scenarios. Lots of teams have moved confreres but for me the big think is i'm a Northern Kentucky University Alum yes its only been a short period of time that we have been D 1 but if the team was D1 here I would not have taken time off playing WIS. There are a ton of teams who have since made the jump and it may effect those teams being filled.

I get that guys would not make the jump to a new league because of time but for a guy like me who would rather have it "right" makes more sense.