After years of being a regular HD player, I am officially done. This player and the recruiting of him has sealed it for me. https://www.whatifsports.com/hd/RecruitProfile/ConsideringList.aspx?rid=4739872

I have wasted enough money on this game.
7/29/2019 8:36 PM
LOL.
7/29/2019 8:56 PM
I don’t get it. You reached way up, without any advantages. You had to know UConn could have completely knocked you out, if it wanted to. Good job getting to very high, I guess, but what made you think this guy was in the bag?
7/29/2019 11:43 PM
Posted by shoe3 on 7/29/2019 11:43:00 PM (view original):
I don’t get it. You reached way up, without any advantages. You had to know UConn could have completely knocked you out, if it wanted to. Good job getting to very high, I guess, but what made you think this guy was in the bag?
This.

You were the third team in a three-team battle. Going after a five-star recruit with your prestige is pretty risky, even in the most perfect of situations. It's dumb to waste time and resources in a fight you were unlikely to win. If you want to leave for other frustrations with the game, that's up to you. But if losing here was your absolute final straw, I suggest you find one more straw.

Ideally, you would have bailed once UConn showed up. Even if you offered minutes and a start and the other two teams didn't, you wouldn't been the underdog.
7/30/2019 2:50 AM
Posted by pallas on 7/30/2019 2:50:00 AM (view original):
Posted by shoe3 on 7/29/2019 11:43:00 PM (view original):
I don’t get it. You reached way up, without any advantages. You had to know UConn could have completely knocked you out, if it wanted to. Good job getting to very high, I guess, but what made you think this guy was in the bag?
This.

You were the third team in a three-team battle. Going after a five-star recruit with your prestige is pretty risky, even in the most perfect of situations. It's dumb to waste time and resources in a fight you were unlikely to win. If you want to leave for other frustrations with the game, that's up to you. But if losing here was your absolute final straw, I suggest you find one more straw.

Ideally, you would have bailed once UConn showed up. Even if you offered minutes and a start and the other two teams didn't, you wouldn't been the underdog.
I understand your comment completely. But i would not say "it's dumb to waste time and resources in a fight you were unlikely to win". In fact, he was "LIKELY" to win in this case!

Based off the odds that everyone here tells me are super accurate and fair, he was very high, while the other two were high. Meaning he had the highest odds to sign the player (which we all know i totally disagree with! With 3 teams involved, I'd consider them all to have 1/3 of a chance to sign him. But that's another story!)

So he didn't waste anything. He had a chance just like the other two sschools did. The roll just didn't go his way. I do understand what pallas is saying here. But the coach did lead the way as far as odds. So he did have a chance
7/30/2019 5:07 AM
Posted by topdogggbm on 7/30/2019 5:07:00 AM (view original):
Posted by pallas on 7/30/2019 2:50:00 AM (view original):
Posted by shoe3 on 7/29/2019 11:43:00 PM (view original):
I don’t get it. You reached way up, without any advantages. You had to know UConn could have completely knocked you out, if it wanted to. Good job getting to very high, I guess, but what made you think this guy was in the bag?
This.

You were the third team in a three-team battle. Going after a five-star recruit with your prestige is pretty risky, even in the most perfect of situations. It's dumb to waste time and resources in a fight you were unlikely to win. If you want to leave for other frustrations with the game, that's up to you. But if losing here was your absolute final straw, I suggest you find one more straw.

Ideally, you would have bailed once UConn showed up. Even if you offered minutes and a start and the other two teams didn't, you wouldn't been the underdog.
I understand your comment completely. But i would not say "it's dumb to waste time and resources in a fight you were unlikely to win". In fact, he was "LIKELY" to win in this case!

Based off the odds that everyone here tells me are super accurate and fair, he was very high, while the other two were high. Meaning he had the highest odds to sign the player (which we all know i totally disagree with! With 3 teams involved, I'd consider them all to have 1/3 of a chance to sign him. But that's another story!)

So he didn't waste anything. He had a chance just like the other two sschools did. The roll just didn't go his way. I do understand what pallas is saying here. But the coach did lead the way as far as odds. So he did have a chance
I was gonna say the same thing Top. Why would he bail when UConn came along. He was favored to win and got a bad dice roll. Most of us have gotten worse.
7/30/2019 7:38 AM
UConn was Very High on one cycle. Arkansas came in late and was only ever on high. I completely understand the odds and the dice roll not falling my way but in previous battles like this, NH usually drops to moderate and I bail. I am just frustrated and venting.
7/30/2019 9:07 AM
It isn’t dumb to go after a guy like this. I don’t know the details of the battle, like what was spent, and when, but it may have been a very good tactical move, and it almost landed you a big fish as a C program. More guys should take shots like this.

UConn was in a position to keep you (and possibly Arkansas, too) out of signing range. They didn’t prioritize the recruit highly enough to do that, though. I don’t know what happened in this particular battle, but what you often see is a team like UConn shows up, gets a scholarship in fast, and everyone bails, like pallas says. Then it can go a couple different ways. If UConn gets comfortable, they may go try to lock up other recruits. Maybe they drop AP, maybe they neglect promises and/or visits, etc. In that situation, you could be in a great position to steal a guy. Of course, they may still have plenty in reserve to come back and overwhelm you, if given enough cycles, or someone else (like Arkansas) might have the same idea, so there are always risks to this strategy.

In this case, you were the effort credit leader when the guy signed. You were in a good position, and you clearly invested a lot more resources than the other two teams, but their prestige and preference advantages kept them in range, despite your prioritization advantage. It wasn’t a dumb play. You made a choice, you took a risk, it didn’t pay off this time. Calculated risks aren’t dumb. It’s only dumb if you don’t understand the situation, and the possible consequences of your choices.
7/30/2019 10:17 AM
I can’t see the odds, but I assume since you were VH in a 3 person battle where the others were H it was something like 50-25-25. That just means it was a coin flip. You knew what you were getting into in that battle and knew it’d likely be a roll.
7/30/2019 12:14 PM
I think it's a good gamble by UNH. Like others said, UNH was at Very High, so he played the situation almost perfectly. Then two Big-6 teams, which have enormous advantages, get rewarded.

A 5-star signing would be a game changer in the Patriot League. I'd imagine that's where the very sensible frustration comes from.
7/30/2019 3:46 PM
Posted by npb7768 on 7/30/2019 3:46:00 PM (view original):
I think it's a good gamble by UNH. Like others said, UNH was at Very High, so he played the situation almost perfectly. Then two Big-6 teams, which have enormous advantages, get rewarded.

A 5-star signing would be a game changer in the Patriot League. I'd imagine that's where the very sensible frustration comes from.
I agree with this. Full credit to bigtex for being willing to make that gamble, I'd be bummed too if I got so close and still lost.
7/30/2019 3:55 PM
Posted by npb7768 on 7/30/2019 3:46:00 PM (view original):
I think it's a good gamble by UNH. Like others said, UNH was at Very High, so he played the situation almost perfectly. Then two Big-6 teams, which have enormous advantages, get rewarded.

A 5-star signing would be a game changer in the Patriot League. I'd imagine that's where the very sensible frustration comes from.
We can't see preferences but Arkansas didn't have an enormous advantage at B- prestige. I was actually surprised Arkansas could reach all the way up to Maine and offer enough HVs.

Maybe the OP could share preferences and how much effort was spent. If he didn't send promises and 20 HVs and 1 CV then it's hard to really be upset about a dice roll here.
7/30/2019 4:18 PM
i think the OP made a pretty good play and just didn't get rewarded for it. that is just how it goes sometimes, i get the frustration. i definitely disagree he did something dumb or whatever, in going for the guy - i mean basically he took his shot and based on everything within his control, was winning. with 3 openings, running flex/man, its a fine time to gamble.

the mistake is to go into these scenarios expecting the coin to flip your way - fine to play the odds, but you have to be clear headed about your odds of losing, just like anything else. i wonder if perhaps whichever team won, showed up late or something - which i could see as being more frustrating - but also is something that should be expected with lower prestige on a top flight player.

bottom line, it was a good attempt with an unfortunate outcome. i suspect the OP is suffering more from a build-up of frustrations than from angst over this single scenario, but who knows. OP, i think you actually did a good job here and in the long run will get rewarded for this kind of stuff. hopefully a few days of cooling off makes you want to take another bite at the apple, because its not that often to see a C prestige school in the lead on a guy like that, so you obviously did something right.
7/30/2019 4:46 PM (edited)
it was a good bet, not a sure bet, and it didnt work out. Make 10 bets like that and you'll win a good number and succeed nicely
7/30/2019 5:54 PM
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