I recently got fuked over in the NT with a #8 seed while at 27 on the projection report. The ONLY thing I can assume is the engine wanted to avoid a sweet 16 matchup vs a conf mate. (The team that got the #7 seed got a SIM 1st round instead).

Personally , I say screw the drop in seed for a POTENTIAL game 2 rounds out and place me where I belong. I can see doing this for 1st round and maybe potential 2nd round matchups, but that's it. Others say 1 seed spot is no big deal. Maybe so. But it could mean a difference in next season's prestige which affects recruiting which then snowballs into something that IS meaningful.

Agree/disagree?

(Thanks for correcting my bad math!)

What was your conference mate on the projection report?

You say you got screwed over on your seeding because of a potential sweet 16 matchup with a conference mate, then you say you can see doing this maybe for potential second-round matchups.

Isn't this exactly what you're saying happened to you, you're complaining about, then you say it's ok all in the same posting?

Posted by vegaskevin on 1/28/2021 10:44:00 AM (view original):
A 27 on the projection report should equal a 6 seed. What was your conference mate on the projection report?

You say you got screwed over on your seeding because of a potential sweet 16 matchup with a conference mate, then you say you can see doing this maybe for potential second-round matchups.

Isn't this exactly what you're saying happened to you, you're complaining about, then you say it's ok all in the same posting?

27 would be a 7 seed, if it was done straight.

Also of note, mully’s opponent was #39 in the PR, so really should have been a 10 seed. And the winner is up against the lowest #1 seed (a very overrated one that is due for a second round exit), so I suppose the functional difference isn’t large here, except that one team got “lucky” and faced a sim in the first round. Although I will say, facing a sim in the NT these days is not necessarily lucky (Brown in Naismith last season is the most recent example).

I probably agree in principle, I’d generally not care about conference matchups past the first 2 rounds, when it comes to seeding. But I wouldn’t say it’s a strong feeling.

Posted by vegaskevin on 1/28/2021 10:44:00 AM (view original):
A 27 on the projection report should equal a 6 seed. What was your conference mate on the projection report?

You say you got screwed over on your seeding because of a potential sweet 16 matchup with a conference mate, then you say you can see doing this maybe for potential second-round matchups.

Isn't this exactly what you're saying happened to you, you're complaining about, then you say it's ok all in the same posting?

27 rank in Proj Report should be a 7-seed, right?
- 21 thru 24 would typically be a 6-seed.
- 25 thru 28 gets you a 7.
- 29 thru 32 is the 8.

"Also of note, mully’s opponent was #39 in the PR, so really should have been a 10 seed."
As I went through the PR vs the seeds there were several changes in the middle seeds that didn't make sense to me. As if the engine was trying to force something and it had a cascading effect.

I like the current system. Way more stupid to play a conference mate in the 2nd round then to get dropped 2 spots on the S curve.

I agree cub.

But what are your thought on the system stretching the adjustment all the way out to the 3rd round?

At the end of the day, whether you’re a 1 seed or a 16 seed; if can’t beat the team put in front of you, then you shouldn’t be winning a title. Is this thread complaining about you losing in the second round instead of the sweet sixteen?

Why is this even a discussion? We're arguing about the difference between ONE seed line?! Who really cares about getting an 8 when they could've been a 7 or vice versa

I believe the seeds are handed out from seed 1 first, down to 16. Not only does seeding steer you to avoid conference games early on, but it "should also" factor in the total number of teams in your conference that made the NT, and space them out so they you wont meet any of them until the latest possible round (I said "should also", because i can't say for certain what all THIS game considers. I'm sure seble knew and Adam may know).

So if 4 teams from a conference make the NT, all 4 will be in different quadrants. If 8 make it, the will be two in each quadrant (with 1 being in the upper half of that region. 1 being in the lower half). If more than 8 make it, it gets a little hairy, but 8 of the teams will be placed correctly at least.

So factoring all that in, sometimes teams have to move up or down a line to make ALL of the placement as ideal as possible. I'm sure that's likely what happened with Mullys team. Whether it was that conference that caused the movement, or maybe another conference with a ton of teams getting in.

End point...... yea it sucks sometimes, but I'm sure there's a reason if we follow the logic behind it. And most importantly...... again, who cares!!!! Its ONE seeding line difference!

Seems to me a screwed up seed is quite realistic. Maybe it’s on purpose.

Haha. The selection committee just doesn’t like you.

Well being my Naismith team is ALWAYS in the same bracket as Louisiana to be a 2nd or 3rd round matchup, I know the selection committee hates me!

"Also of note, mully’s opponent was #39 in the PR, so really should have been a 10 seed. And the winner is up against the lowest #1 seed (a very overrated one that is due for a second round exit), "

Don't you hate being right most of the time?

I think this is where the game actually mimics the real tournament. If I'm not mistaken, the NCAA won't let conference teams face in the Sweet 16 unless there are more than 8 league teams in the draw.

I'm glad I don't have to write the game code that formulates the NT seeds. Although I don't know much about programming, I'd imagine it to be a difficult task.