Criteria for DITR consideration? Topic

Greetings,

I've seen different posts with conflicting criteria for who is eligible to possibly be named as a DITR. Is it that the Overall AND the Projected ratings have to be below 60? And is this the same regardless of position, or are there different Overall/Projected ratings for different positions?

Thanks for your help!
2/9/2021 4:04 PM
It's best to go to a World that just had DITR day and study it. I have done this on numerous occasions. You don't have to be a participant in the World to view the World's DITR, just view active Worlds that have less than 36 days left and you can see their DITR class. Anything you see on the boards is an educated guess at best because the developers have purposely never given away their DITR logic.

I have used trial and error and found a decent system to scout for DITR candidates, but it is far from perfect. In my opinion, the DITR selection process is a combination of a standard distribution and a slotting system. If I had to guess, I would say the position of the player doesn't matter, but due to the pure nature of overall rating, certain positions like DH, C, 1b and relief pitching are going to have more candidates because those type of players are the ones with lower overall ratings.

Once you have looked at a few DITR classes, you'll get a good idea where the cutoff is and a good idea of what to look for.

2/9/2021 6:50 PM
great advice. How do I see their DITR report? I went to World Center, looked up other worlds, sorted by days remaining, then tried both a private and a public league. When I click on league name, I only see a list of the teams, not anywhere where I can see data.
2/9/2021 9:45 PM
never mind...when I went back to my world, I ended up somehow on the other world's DITR page...all good...thanks for your help!
2/9/2021 9:48 PM
I went thru about 10 leagues/seasons...general observations: about a third of batters are Catchers. Rarely a SS or CF. For both pitchers and batters, all are 25 years old or younger. The highest current ratings for any have been in the low 50s. About 2/3 of the pitchers have been SPs rather than RPs.

Most disappointing is an even mix of guys with overall ratings in the 30s and 40s, rarely anyone in the low 50s...so even with the DITR boost the lower guys aren't gonna make the Show.

Is there any indication that teams doing worse in the standings get more DITRs? Like maybe the game trying to even the talent pool? I don't see any correlation to record in my leagues.

The most common years-in-service is 3, but the range is 1-5. except for 3, the others - 1, 2, 4, or 5 years pro - are about even, so no trend/predictor there.

2/9/2021 10:33 PM
This is where I get my prediction that it's a standard distribution of players around a certain current rating. If you lineup the current rating of each player in the DITR class, you notice that many players around a certain current overall rating get the DITR designation. Then, the further out from that particular overall rating, the less players are designated. When you plot it, it looks damn near what a standard distribution looks like.

This is also where I get my slotting system theory. I think the ditr logic slots a certain amount of 'service years guys' so if you have a bunch of guys of various service levels that are close to that specific current overall rating in the standard distribution, you have a better shot at getting three DITRs. However, if you have a bunch of the same 'years of service' guys in the minors or guys that are too far away from the middle of that standard distribution, you have a lower chance of getting three DITRs.

Now that you're armed with a good idea of how the logic might work, you can look at DITR classes from three or four years prior. Any retired guys or free agents fall off the list so you can see the guys that are still actively playing. See how many and what type of players are mlb players. See what ratings are still developing vs. what ratings have stopped developing. You'll notice that certain ratings stop developing, but other ratings continue to develop. This should give you clues regarding the type of players to target for ditr.
2/9/2021 11:00 PM
I've also seen posts about making guys you don't care about Inactive around the time of the DITR processing (All-Star Game) to increase chances that the "right" guys get tagged as DITR. But, others say it just means overall you get fewer...that there is no successful way to make sure the right guys get tagged.

Thoughts on this?
2/11/2021 8:33 PM
I don't understand the "aged 21 or younger" comment. I get that the most common years of service is 3 (and range is 1-5), but don't observe where age factors in. You saying more DITRs are 21 or younger, or fewer, or something else altogether?
2/12/2021 12:37 PM
it's worth trying. seems most DITRs become 4-A type of guys. If there's anything that can be done to get one to be a serviceable big leaguer, I'm up for trying it. Thanks for all your input!
2/12/2021 4:00 PM
I echo everything Tlowster said. I think the main thing is try not and have the least amount of bad candidates. I would much rather sell out for a good candidate rather than have 3 guys who might not make the majors.

You can do that In many ways, such as draft DITR candidates, deactivating bad candidates, singing non DITR minor league free agents
2/12/2021 5:01 PM
I still can't figure out how they are generated. I specifically will sign draft picks and international players in the low 50s overall to try to generate them. Virtually every season I get one. I have had a few that turned into very useful players but at the end of the day it is usually 1....not 3 like some teams get.
2/14/2021 4:49 PM
tlowster and pray4pro, I've been executing on your suggestions over the last few seasons (as well as other users on various threads) and have done well. I don't think I got any future all stars, but consistent solid contributors. I've believed that if you have an eligible (lower than the true projected overall cut-off) player Active you will get a DITR. Last season I left 3 targets Active and got one of them. I struck out on a DITR for the first time today. This is the first year where I really tried to draft the best candidates. I left 5 targets Active for the AM cycle 2. All with projected overalls in the mid to high 50s (with 20m amateur scouting), ranging from 54 to 59. One 21 yo with 3 professional years in AA. A 19 yo with 1 professional year in Low A (both the remainders from last season's try). And, the last 3 all college players drafted this season in Rookie ball (aged 20, 22, and 22). I am tempted to think that all 5 just had true overalls over the cutoff and my scouting undervalued these players, but I am coming around to your thoughts on the slotting system. Have you ever missed on a DITR one season and then had one of the players Active that season hit on a following season? I am going to leave my 5 players Active going forward to try myself because if one of these players get it (or if you have seen that) that would prove some kind of other system in place. I'm also curious how many players you typically target by leaving Active each season? It sounds like it's wide variety. What frequency do you get more than one DITR with that approach? I really want to hang onto targeting the best DITR candidates and maybe just lower the overall threshold I've used, but may need to come around to more of your thinking and leave more, but lesser, candidates Active to prevent missing like this again.
2/15/2021 12:35 PM (edited)
I’ve never gotten 0, but I know Tlowster has. I also used to not narrow it down as much as I do now though. That being said, I rarely ever get more then one. In All the Way Mae, I’ve gotten multiple once in the last 8 seasons lol.

As far as # of candidates, I put a lot of budget and effort into the draft to maximize the highest amount of candidates I can have, and still come out with a good player. In All the Way Mae, I’ve got 8 candidates active pre draft with another 12 or so candidates on my draft board. In doing so, I’m hoping to have a distribution along the lines of:
4+ pro - 0
3+ pro - 2
2+ pro - 3
1+ pro - 3
Drafted - 5-10
Their will be some low overall C/RP thrown in their so I’m hoping I have a good distribution. I will say these are all COL/HS as I run a 0 INT budget

2/16/2021 10:28 AM
Thanks for both of your responses. Your wisdom on this and the various other posts has added a really fun element to this game for me. I've usually drafted those really low stamina RPs before just hoping to get lucky, but now that I know more about the other ideal DITR candidates, this season I've started to make it a point to draft as many of them as possible after the real prospects, and will continue to (I don't participate in Int FA). The ultimate point to get to is have multiple DITRs a season through this method and it seems like the only way to get there is relentlessly stock your farm with the right candidates.

This season definitely stung not seeing that DITR email after the work I put in. There were a couple more players that I could have left Active in hindsight, but I was too stingy with who I wanted to get it. It may not have made a difference anyway. I'll track these 5 into future seasons and will let you know if one of them hits. They're all worth leaving Active to a point as older prospects.
2/16/2021 11:46 PM
How do you only have 5 possible active players throughout your minor leagues?
You must have 19 actives on the roster.
Does this mean all the other actives are not DITR eligible?
2/18/2021 4:59 AM
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