The 2021/2022 Tournament: Round Three Particulars Topic


I’ve listed the top seasons from each franchise and split them up between N.L.and A.L. – then divided them into six different leagues. League Six is all of the Expansion Era teams and though some of the teams on the A.L. side played in the N.L. for some time, I split them up this way to even everything out. There will be twelve N.L. teams and twelve A.L. teams in each league. There are seventeen choices of each for the N.L. and A.L. both, in each of the six leagues in this round. The seasons are listed in chronological order and separated into five different groupings. Every team in Round Three will be from a specific franchise and made up of five different seasons from their history – one from each of the groups. For example, you may end up in League One and have a Giants team made up of players from 1897, 1919, 1938, 1965 and 2010. From each of these seasons, you MUST roster two pitchers and three position players.

Based on the final W/L totals of Round 2, a draft order will be set for both sides of each of the six leagues. First, however, I’ll take the top eleven finishers (according to W/L record in Round 2) and let them determine which of the leagues (and whether they want N.L. or A.L.) they want. The owner finishing with the 12th highest W/L total in Round Two will automatically get the first pick in the League that has an open spot remaining. Once the Number One picks are decided for all twelve available, I’ll create a draft order for all of them for the picks 2 through 12. The draft will then run true “snake-style” from there (i.e., 1-12, 12-1, 1-12, 12-1, 1-12, etc.)

Once all 12 owners in a draft make their choices, the draft order will reverse for their second pick. Each owner will need to draft one season from each group of their franchise to build their roster. Also, it doesn’t matter which group you pick from first – as long as you end up with one season from each of the five groups.

As an added bonus: We’re going to allow one “Clone” per team. It can be either a pitcher or a position player. I normally wouldn’t go this route but I can see where a lot of teams may end up with identical-looking seasons to draw players from (I’m looking at you Tampa Bay) so at least one clone should help in that regard.

League Alignment: Alignment for the N.L. and A.L. in each league will be done chronologically by the “earliest” season used for your roster. In other words, on the N.L. side of League One, if four of the Giants owners select 1893, 1894, 1897 and 1898, then those four owners know that they’ll be the N.L. East in the league.

OTHER IMPORTANT INFORMATION:

NO CAP – Build the best roster you can from your five seasons.

Clones: One, as stated above.

Designated Hitter: Yes – in all six leagues
Waiver Wire:
No

Injuries – Turned On
Trades: No
A.A.A.: No

You may use either partial or full season stats of any player who had a split season - as long as the stats indicate it was for your franchise.

Stadium – Any stadium that your franchise called home during its history.


Who Moves On?

Once Round THREE is complete, the owners who own the eight playoff teams in each league will earn a spot in Round Four. 8 x 6 = 48 spots. That leaves 48 spots to fill. The final 48 spots will be awarded to the teams who had the most wins across all 6 leagues (who didn't make their league's playoffs). The tie-break (should it come into play) will be (1) Most Home Wins, and (2) Highest Exp.%.

Rounds Four through Six will all be completely different than Round One and Two. I’ve already got them figured out but will post them later.


Here what’s available for each league:


10/11/2021 5:04 PM

LEAGUE ONE:

Giants
Group 1: 1893 / 1894 / 1897 / 1898 / 1903 / 1904 / 1905 / 1906 / 1907 / 1908 / 1909 / 1910 / 1911 / 1912 / 1913 / 1914 / 1916
Group 2: 1917 / 1918 / 1919 / 1920 / 1921 / 1922 / 1923 / 1924 / 1925 / 1927 / 1928 / 1929 / 1930 / 1931 / 1933 / 1934 / 1935
Group 3: 1936 / 1937 / 1938 / 1939 / 1942 / 1945 / 1947 / 1950 / 1951 / 1952 / 1954 / 1955 / 1958 / 1959 / 1960 / 1961 / 1962
Group 4: 1963 / 1964 / 1965 / 1966 / 1967 / 1968 / 1969 / 1970 / 1971 / 1973 / 1978 / 1982 / 1986 / 1987 / 1988 / 1989 / 1990
Group 5: 1993 / 1997 / 1998 / 1999 / 2000 / 2001 / 2002 / 2003 / 2004 / 2009 / 2010 / 2011 / 2012 / 2014 / 2015 / 2016 / 2021

Highlanders/Yankees
Group 1: 1903 / 1904 / 1906 / 1910 / 1919 / 1920 / 1921 / 1922 / 1923 / 1924 / 1926 / 1927 / 1928 / 1929 / 1930 / 1931 / 1932
Group 2: 1933 / 1934 / 1935 / 1936 / 1937 / 1938 / 1939 / 1940 / 1941 / 1942 / 1943 / 1944 / 1946 / 1947 / 1948 / 1949 / 1950
Group 3: 1951 / 1952 / 1953 / 1954 / 1955 / 1956 / 1957 / 1958 / 1960 / 1961 / 1962 / 1963 / 1964 / 1970 / 1974 / 1976 / 1977
Group 4: 1978 / 1979 / 1980 / 1981 / 1983 / 1984 / 1985 / 1986 / 1987 / 1994 / 1995 / 1996 / 1997 / 1998 / 1999 / 2000 / 2001
Group 5: 2002 / 2003 / 2004 / 2005 / 2006 / 2007 / 2008 / 2009 / 2010 / 2011 / 2012 / 2015 / 2017 / 2018 / 2019 / 2020 / 2021


LEAGUE TWO:

Beaneaters/Braves

Group 1: 1893 / 1894 / 1896 / 1897 / 1898 / 1899 / 1914 / 1915 / 1916
Group 2: 1947 / 1948 / 1953 / 1954 / 1955 / 1956 / 1957 / 1958 / 1959
Group 3: 1960 / 1964 / 1969 / 1974 / 1982 / 1991 / 1992 / 1993 / 1994
Group 4: 1995 / 1996 / 1997 / 1998 / 1999 / 2000 / 2002 / 2003 / 2004
Group 5: 2005 / 2010 / 2011 / 2012 / 2013 / 2018 / 2019 / 2020 / 2021

Reds
Group 1: 1896 / 1897 / 1898 / 1899 / 1904 / 1919 / 1922 / 1923
Group 2: 1926 / 1938 / 1939 / 1940 / 1941 / 1943 / 1944 / 1956
Group 3: 1961 / 1962 / 1964 / 1965 / 1969 / 1970 / 1972 / 1973
Group 4: 1974 / 1975 / 1976 / 1978 / 1979 / 1980 / 1981 / 1985
Group 5: 1990 / 1992 / 1994 / 1995 / 1999 / 2010 / 2012 / 2013

Naps/Indians
Group 1: 1903 / 1904 / 1906 / 1907 / 1908 / 1913 / 1917 / 1918 / 1919 / 1920
Group 2: 1921 / 1923 / 1926 / 1929 / 1932 / 1934 / 1935 / 1937 / 1938 / 1939
Group 3: 1940 / 1943 / 1948 / 1949 / 1950 / 1951 / 1952 / 1953 / 1954 / 1955
Group 4: 1956 / 1959 / 1965 / 1968 / 1994 / 1995 / 1996 / 1997 / 1998 / 1999
Group 5: 2000 / 2001 / 2005 / 2007 / 2013 / 2016 / 2017 / 2018 / 2019 / 2020

Browns(1902-1945)/Orioles(1960-2016)
Group 1: 1902 / 1908 / 1922 / 1925 / 1942 / 1944 / 1945
Group 2: 1960 / 1961 / 1964 / 1965 / 1966 / 1968 / 1969
Group 3: 1970 / 1971 / 1973 / 1974 / 1975 / 1976 / 1977
Group 4: 1978 / 1979 / 1980 / 1981 / 1982 / 1983 / 1989
Group 5: 1992 / 1994 / 1996 / 1997 / 2012 / 2014 / 2016


LEAGUE THREE:

Browns(1893-1898)/Perfectos/Cardinals
Group 1: 1899 / 1901 / 1917 / 1921 / 1922 / 1926 / 1927 / 1928 / 1930 / 1931 / 1933
Group 2: 1934 / 1935 / 1936 / 1939 / 1940 / 1941 / 1942 / 1943 / 1944 / 1945 / 1946
Group 3: 1947 / 1948 / 1949 / 1952 / 1953 / 1957 / 1960 / 1963 / 1964 / 1967 / 1968
Group 4: 1969 / 1971 / 1981 / 1982 / 1985 / 1987 / 1993 / 1996 / 2000 / 2001 / 2002
Group 5: 2004 / 2005 / 2009 / 2011 / 2012 / 2013 / 2014 / 2015 / 2018 / 2019 / 2021

Phillies
Group 1: 1893 / 1894 / 1895 / 1899 / 1900 / 1901
Group 2: 1905 / 1907 / 1913 / 1915 / 1916 / 1917
Group 2: 1950 / 1952 / 1953 / 1964 / 1976 / 1977
Group 4: 1978 / 1980 / 1981 / 1982 / 1983 / 1993
Group 5: 2005 / 2007 / 2008 / 2009 / 2010 / 2011

Athletics
Group 1: 1901 / 1902 / 1903 / 1904 / 1905 / 1906 / 1907 / 1909 / 1910 / 1911
Group 2: 1912 / 1913 / 1914 / 1925 / 1926 / 1927 / 1928 / 1929 / 1930 / 1931
Group 3: 1932 / 1948 / 1969 / 1970 / 1971 / 1972 / 1973 / 1974 / 1975 / 1976
Group 4: 1981 / 1988 / 1989 / 1990 / 1992 / 1999 / 2000 / 2001 / 2002 / 2003
Group 5: 2004 / 2005 / 2006 / 2012 / 2013 / 2014 / 2018 / 2019 / 2020 / 2021

Senators(1901-1960)/Twins
Group 1: 1912 / 1913 / 1914 / 1915 / 1918 / 1924 / 1925
Group 2: 1926 / 1927 / 1930 / 1931 / 1932 / 1933 / 1936
Group 3: 1943 / 1945 / 1962 / 1963 / 1965 / 1966 / 1967
Group 4: 1969 / 1970 / 1988 / 1991 / 1992 / 2002 / 2003
Group 5: 2004 / 2006 / 2008 / 2009 / 2010 / 2019 / 2020


LEAGUE FOUR:

Pirates
Group 1: 1893 / 1900 / 1901 / 1902 / 1903 / 1904 / 1905 / 1906 / 1907
Group 2: 1908 / 1909 / 1910 / 1911 / 1912 / 1921 / 1922 / 1923 / 1924
Group 3: 1925 / 1926 / 1927 / 1928 / 1929 / 1932 / 1933 / 1935 / 1937
Group 4: 1938 / 1944 / 1960 / 1962 / 1965 / 1966 / 1970 / 1971 / 1972
Group 5: 1975 / 1976 / 1977 / 1979 / 1990 / 1991 / 1992 / 2013 / 2015

Colts/Orphans/Cubs
Group 1: 1895 / 1896 / 1898 / 1903 / 1904 / 1905 / 1906 / 1907
Group 2: 1908 / 1909 / 1910 / 1911 / 1912 / 1913 / 1918 / 1927
Group 3: 1928 / 1929 / 1930 / 1931 / 1932 / 1933 / 1934 / 1935
Group 4: 1936 / 1937 / 1938 / 1945 / 1969 / 1972 / 1984 / 1989
Group 5: 1998 / 2004 / 2008 / 2015 / 2016 / 2017 / 2018 / 2020

White Sox
Group 1: 1901 / 1902 / 1904 / 1905 / 1906 / 1907 / 1908 / 1915
Group 2: 1916 / 1917 / 1919 / 1920 / 1937 / 1939 / 1953 / 1954
Group 3: 1955 / 1956 / 1957 / 1959 / 1960 / 1963 / 1964 / 1965
Group 4: 1967 / 1972 / 1977 / 1982 / 1983 / 1990 / 1991 / 1993
Group 5: 1994 / 2000 / 2005 / 2006 / 2008 / 2010 / 2020 / 2021

Tigers
Group 1: 1901 / 1907 / 1908 / 1909 / 1910 / 1911 / 1915 / 1916 / 1919
Group 2: 1923 / 1924 / 1927 / 1934 / 1935 / 1936 / 1937 / 1938 / 1940
Group 3: 1944 / 1945 / 1946 / 1947 / 1949 / 1950 / 1961 / 1965 / 1966
Group 4: 1967 / 1968 / 1969 / 1971 / 1972 / 1981 / 1983 / 1984 / 1986
Group 5: 1987 / 1988 / 2006 / 2007 / 2011 / 2012 / 2013 / 2014 / 2016


LEAGUE FIVE:

Bridegrooms/Superbas/Robins/Dodgers
Group 1: 1893 / 1894 / 1895 / 1899 / 1900 / 1901 / 1902 / 1903 / 1915 / 1916 / 1920 / 1921 / 1924 / 1928 / 1930 / 1931 / 1932
Group 2: 1939 / 1940 / 1941 / 1942 / 1943 / 1945 / 1946 / 1947 / 1948 / 1949 / 1950 / 1951 / 1952 / 1953 / 1954 / 1955 / 1956
Group 3: 1957 / 1959 / 1960 / 1961 / 1962 / 1963 / 1965 / 1966 / 1969 / 1970 / 1971 / 1972 / 1973 / 1974 / 1975 / 1976 / 1977
Group 4: 1978 / 1980 / 1981 / 1982 / 1983 / 1985 / 1988 / 1990 / 1991 / 1994 / 1995 / 1996 / 1997 / 1998 / 2000 / 2001 / 2002
Group 5: 2003 / 2004 / 2006 / 2007 / 2008 / 2009 / 2011 / 2012 / 2013 / 2014 / 2015 / 2016 / 2017 / 2018 / 2019 / 2020 / 2021

Americans/Red Sox
Group 1: 1901 / 1902 / 1903 / 1904 / 1905 / 1909 / 1910 / 1911 / 1912 / 1913 / 1914 / 1915 / 1916 / 1917 / 1918
Group 2: 1935 / 1937 / 1938 / 1939 / 1940 / 1941 / 1942 / 1946 / 1947 / 1948 / 1949 / 1950 / 1951 / 1953 / 1955
Group 3: 1956 / 1957 / 1958 / 1967 / 1968 / 1969 / 1970 / 1972 / 1973 / 1974 / 1975 / 1976 / 1977 / 1978 / 1979
Group 4: 1980 / 1981 / 1982 / 1984 / 1986 / 1988 / 1989 / 1990 / 1991 / 1995 / 1996 / 1998 / 1999 / 2000 / 2002
Group 5: 2003 / 2004 / 2005 / 2006 / 2007 / 2008 / 2009 / 2010 / 2011 / 2013 / 2016 / 2017 / 2018 / 2019 / 2021

Orioles(1894-1898)
1894 / 1895 / 1896 / 1897 / 1898

Spiders
1893 / 1895 / 1896 / 1897 / 1898


LEAGUE SIX:

Diamondbacks
1999 / 2001 / 2002 / 2011 / 2017

Rockies
1995 / 2007 / 2009 / 2017 / 2018

Mets
Group 1: 1969 / 1972 / 1976 / 1984
Group 2: 1985 / 1986 / 1987 / 1988
Group 3: 1989 / 1990 / 1997 / 1998
Group 4: 1999 / 2000 / 2006 / 2007
Group 5: 2008 / 2015 / 2016 / 2019

Padres
Group 1: 1978 / 1984
Group 2: 1989 / 1996
Group 3: 1998 / 2004
Group 4: 2006 / 2007
Group 5: 2010 / 2020

Expos/Nationals
Group 1: 1979 / 1980 / 1981 / 1982
Group 2: 1985 / 1987 / 1990 / 1992
Group 3: 1993 / 1994 / 1996 / 2002
Group 4: 2003 / 2012 / 2013 / 2014
Group 5: 2015 / 2016 / 2017 / 2019

Colt .45's/Astros
Group 1: 1972 / 1979 / 1980 / 1981 / 1983
Group 2: 1986 / 1989 / 1993 / 1994 / 1995
Group 3: 1997 / 1998 / 1999 / 2001 / 2002
Group 4: 2003 / 2004 / 2005 / 2008 / 2015
Group 5: 2016 / 2017 / 2018 / 2019 / 2021



Angels
Group 1: 1979 / 1982 / 1985
Group 2: 1986 / 1989 / 1995
Group 3: 2002 / 2004 / 2005
Group 4: 2006 / 2007 / 2008
Group 5: 2009 / 2012 / 2014

Rays
2008 / 2010 / 2019 / 2020 / 2021

Royals
Group 1: 1975 / 1976
Group 2: 1977 / 1978
Group 3: 1980 / 1982
Group 4: 1985 / 1989
Group 5: 1994 / 2015

Blue Jays
Group 1: 1983 / 1984 / 1985
Group 2: 1987 / 1988 / 1989
Group 3: 1991 / 1992 / 1993
Group 4: 1998 / 2006 / 2015
Group 5: 2016 / 2020 / 2021

Mariners
Group 1: 1995 / 1997
Group 2: 2000 / 2001
Group 3: 2002 / 2003
Group 4: 2007 / 2014
Group 5: 2018 / 2021

Rangers
Group 1: 1977 / 1978 / 1981
Group 2: 1986 / 1996 / 1998
Group 3: 1999 / 2004 / 2009
Group 4: 2010 / 2011 / 2012
Group 5: 2013 / 2015 / 2016

Brewers
Group 1: 1978 / 1979 / 1980
Group 2: 1981 / 1982 / 1983
Group 3: 1987 / 1988 / 1992
Group 4: 2008 / 2011 / 2017
Group 5: 2018 / 2019 / 2021


10/16/2021 5:54 PM (edited)
How does it work for the teams listed above that don't have a Group number next to the years?
10/11/2021 9:39 PM
If someone wants one of the five franchises that you're talking about, they get the five seasons that are listed. No groupings necessary.


10/11/2021 11:52 PM
Posted by thejuice6 on 10/11/2021 11:52:00 PM (view original):
If someone wants one of the five franchises that you're talking about, they get the five seasons that are listed. No groupings necessary.


So they would have to pick that franchise set with their first pick, and then they’d sit out the rest of the draft?
10/29/2021 8:41 PM
Yep - in those cases, they wouldn't even be involved in a draft.

10/30/2021 6:31 PM
Of those 5 franchises with no groupings, do we need to take 2 Pitchers and 3 Hitters from each year listed?
11/7/2021 7:22 AM
Yep

11/7/2021 3:25 PM
Do clones have to come from your franchise?
11/8/2021 11:35 AM

Yep - you can only roster players from your franchise...


11/8/2021 5:51 PM
"Stadium – Any stadium that your franchise called home during its history."

So this means I could take a stadium from my franchise's history even if I don't have a season that the stadium was used?
11/8/2021 8:47 PM
Beyond the top twelve finishers, do we have any choice in which league we end up in? Or are we assigned a league based on overall record?
11/11/2021 5:38 PM
thejuice6 can confirm, but I'm pretty sure it's like all the other rounds of his tournament... He has an algorithm which assigns the teams into each league. You can be fairly sure that if you have a team ranked 13th-24th overall, you will get a second round pick in a league. If you have a team ranked 25th-36th overall, you will have a 3rd round pick in a league, and so on.

We just don't have any control over which league.
11/12/2021 8:22 AM (edited)
I think he will try to spread out an owner’s teams so they are in as many different leagues as possible.
11/11/2021 8:34 PM
to all of the above.

11/12/2021 2:32 AM
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