Neighber League Draft Forum Topic

This is a league that we've run a few times over the years. We recently finished the years 5 version so I thought we'd see what kind of interest there is for a years 6 version.

The league is not a progressive league. It's just a one time shot that can be repeated. The rules are pretty complicated so it's probably not the right league for a beginner or someone with a passing interest in WIS. It's better for the hard core owner. So here are the complicated rules.

Standard 20 team league, four divisions, five teams per division, $ 80 million budget, no DH.

Your final roster will be constructed from combining the rosters of four real life teams from a pool of all major league teams that played in 1926, 36, 46, 56, 66, or 76. For instance, you could build your final roster from players from the 1976 Mets, 1966 Dodgers, 1926 A's and 1976 Reds. The rostering is not as simple as that. It is quite restrictive.

Once the season starts you can start a player at any position at which he has a WIS rating for that season. However on your final 25 man roster you must have exactly two players who have a primary position at catcher, 2 1B, 2 2B, 2 3B, 2 shortstops, 5 outfielders and 10 pitchers. You can tell what position a player counts as by rostering in a team, say the 1956 Brooklyn Dodgers you see Jackie Robinson as a third baseman. That means if he makes your final roster he will be one of your team's two third basemen. Once the season starts he can start at any position he has a WIS rating. Lucky you. Jackie has a WIS rating at 1B, 2B, and outfield in addition to he 3B primary rating. A guy like that is a very valuable guy in this league.

VERY IMPORTANT! We all have to be looking at the same information to make this league work. When you pick a team, you have to know who you get. Here's the only league approved way to do it. Look at a blank draft center page. See where it says 2015 Anaheim Angels? You can switch that to any team and any year. That's the only officially approved way to see who you get on your team. This is very important because there are two wrong ways to do it and people do it the wrong way every time and they make decisions thinking they have players they don't in fact have. One wrong way to do it is to go to baseball-reference.com and look at the 1956 Dodgers. That will give you a different set of players than the approved method. The other wrong way id to go to a blank WIS draft center page and click on a blank SP/RP spot and ask to see the 1956 Dodgers pitchers. That will give you a wrong group of players also. Let's do an experiment. Ask WIS to call up the 1956 Dodgers the correct way by changing the 2015 Anaheim Angels to the 1956 Brooklyn Dodgers. Notice you get 10 pitchers. Now let's do it the wrong way. Go to a blank screen, pick an empty pitcher spot and ask to see the 1956 Dodger pitchers. Oops. There are 13 of them. There are 12 pitchers and two different versions of Sal Maglie. If you do this the wrong way you'll think you have Hughes and Loes when you don't. Then you'll be frustrated when you finally puzzle your final roster together and I'll tell you it's not a legal roster.. This is very important to get this right as people do it wrong every time.

On your final roster you must have 7 players from one of your four teams, and six from each of the other three. You can't have two versions of the same player on your final roster. For instance if you are using the 1936 Indianss and 1946 Indians, you can't roster both Bob Fellers. You can use one or none.

As soon as 20 owners are signed up you will be randomly assigned a draft order and division. The draft order goes 1-24, 1-24, 24-1, 24-1. Having an early pick in this draft is no particular advantage. Here's how the draft works.

Round One- Once your draft spot comes up you can pick any team from the available teams from 1926, 36, 46, 56, 66, 76. Once you pick a team, no one else can pick that same team. If you pick the 1976 Dodgers, no one else can use the 1976 Dodgers.

Round Two - One of your three division mates will be assigned the task of gifting you your second round team. He should look at your first round pick and find another team which meshes horribly with it. For instance let's say your first round pick was the 1966 Dodgers, great pitching but not much hitting. Maybe the 1976 Mets would be a bad match since they have Seaver, Koosman and Matlack but again, not much hitting. Maybe an even better match would be the WWII era 1926 Red Sox who don't have a whole lot of pitching or hitting. They don't even have cheap backups that might help your budget. Anyway, you get the idea, and six of these guys will be on your final roster. Your second round pick will be awarded to you by a division mate who will try to screw you over the best he can.

Round Three - A second owner within your division will be assigned the task of gifting you the third round team that he expects will give you the most grief.

Round Four - You get to choose your fourth round team that will make as much sense as you can out of the mess you have before you, knowing the dagger rounds are coming next.

First Dagger - The third owner of your division gets to throw two daggers at your roster pool/ He will look at your four teams and can throw a dagger at one player removing him from your player pool. Who to dagger? Your only leadoff batter? Your best power hitter? Your only cheap backup 1B? Your only shortstop with over 300 at bats? Your fourth starter who's a bargain at 2.1 million? The only guy who plays four different positions? The possibilities are a puzzle You might end up daggering someone who he wasn't planning on using anyway. IF your opponent has the 1956 and 1966 Mickey Mantles, daggering Mickey kills them both. The second dagger is to remove one of your four stadiums.

Final Dagger - The final team in your division gets to throw one final dagger. It doesn't hurt as much as the first one though. You get to name which of your four teams the dagger must hit.

I know this is complicated but we've run it many times over the years and it results in a very enjoyable draft. Prepare to do the research though as you'll pull your hair out trying to analyze your division mates teams before picking another team for them or daggering them I know it's complicated. It's a league for those who like complicated.
7/8/2023 12:16 AM (edited)
1 beernoser ______________here

2 kentol _________________here

3 ermocito ____________________here

4 _jwillis ____________________here

5 Jpeterso __________________-here

6 BeAllEndAll_________________here

7 midknight__________________here

8 redcped___________________here

9 eman7400________________here

10 calhoop ________________here

11 seay00 _________________here

12 jonstephen25___________here

13 jeff2873_______________here

14 vilefileman________________here

15 whalers10_______________here

16 razorclams_______________here

17 summerfield

18 3dayrotation_______________here

19 peekay____________________here

20 fatguyrd _____________________here
7/10/2023 7:38 PM (edited)
1 eman7400..............................76 Reds............76 Expos.................36 Bees..............76 Pirates
2 fatguyrd .................................76 Phillies..........26 Red Sox............56 Reds..............66 Indians
3 3dayrotation.............................46 Red Sox......66 Mets..................46 Indians............26 Reds
4 jeffc2873...................................66 Orioles........36 Phillies..............76 Padres.............76 Rangers
5 lennyistall...................................36 Cardinale.....46 Giants.............56 Cubs................46 Cubs
6 midknight..................................26 Cardinals........76 Brewers.........36 Senators..........76 Royals
7 calhoop.....................................36 Pirates............56 Athletics........36 White Sox........76 Mets
8 whalers10..................................66 Giants............46 Pirates.........36 Red Sox............76 Athletics
9 vilefileman.................................66 White Sox......76 Angels..........76 Indians...............26 Tigers
10 redcped..................................56 Braves............36 Reds.............36 Dodgers.............76 Astros
11 seay00 1.................................76 Yankees.........76 White Sox.....46 Reds...................36 Giants
12 kentol......................................46 Cardinals.......46 Athletics........76 Giants................56 Yankees
13 Jpeterso..................................56 Dodgers.........26 Phillies.........66 Athletics.............26 Pirates
14 _jwillis.....................................46 Yankees..........46 Browns.........56 Orioles.............26 Athletics
15 beernoser...............................46 Tigers................36 Athletics......76 Cardinals.........56 Red Sox
16 ermocito.................................56 Tigers................36 Browns........26 Robins.............36 Yankees
17 BeAllEndAll............................56 White Sox.........76 Tigers...........66 Angels..............66 Twins
18 razorclams.............................66 Dodgers............76 Braves..........66 Senators..........26 Yankees
19 jonstephen25.........................26 Indians...............26 Browns..........66 Red Sox.........66 Braves
20 peekay....................................76 Red Sox............26 Braves...........56 Senators........76 Dodgers
8/1/2023 8:49 PM (edited)
1926 NL

St Louis Cardinals 89-65.......................................midknight (1)

Cincinnati Reds 87-67..............................................3dayrotation (4)

Pittsburgh Pirates 84-69.........................................jpeterso (4)

Chicago Cubs 82-72

New York Giants 74-77

Brooklyn Robins 71-82..........................................ermcito (3)

Boston Braves 66-86..............................................peekay (2)

Philadelphia Phillies 58-93......................................jpeterso (2)
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1926 AL

New York Yankees 91-63................................razorclams (4)

Cleveland Indians 88-66.................................jonstephen (1)

Philadelphia Athletics 83-67..........................j_willis (4)

Washington Senators 81-69

Chicago White Sox 81-72

Detroit Tigers 79-75........................................vilefileman (4)

St Louis Browns 62-92...................................jonstephen (2)

Boston Red Sox 46-107....................................fatguy (2)

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1936 NL

New York Giants 92-62.........................................Seay (4)

Chicago Cubs 87-67

St Louis Cardinals 87-67.........................................lennyistall (1)

Pittsburgh Pirates 84-70.......................................calhoop (1)

Cincinnati Reds 74-80........................................redcped (2)

Boston Bees 71-83................................................eman (3)

Brooklyn Dodgers 67-87...........................................redcped (3)

Philadelphia Phillies 54-100................................................jeff (2)

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1936 AL

New York Yankees 102-51.......................................ermocito (4)

Detroit Tigers 83-71

Washington Senators 82-71.....................................midknight (3)

Chicago White Sox 81-70..........................................calhoop (3)

Cleveland Indians 80-74

Boston Red Sox 74-80..............................whalers (3)

St Louis Browns 57-95...................................Ermocito (2)

Philadelphia Athletics 53-100....................Beernoser (2)
8/1/2023 12:06 AM (edited)
1946 NL

St Louis Cardinals 98-58...................................kentol (1)

Brooklyn Dodgers 96-60

Chicago Cubs 82-71........................................lenny (4)

Boston Braves 81-72

Philadelphia Phillies 69-85

Cincinnati Reds 67-87.................................................Seay (3)

Pittsburgh Pirates 63-91...............................................whalers (2)

New York Giants 61-93......................................lenny (2)

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46 AL

Boston Red Sox 104-50..............................................3dayrotation (1)

Detroit Tigers 92-62......................................................beernoser (1)

New York Yankees 87-67.............................................._jwillis (1)

Washington Senators 76-78

Chicago White Sox 74-80

Cleveland Indians 68-86.................................................3dayrotation (3)

St Louis Browns 66-88...................................................jwillis (2)

Philadelphia Athletics 49-105...........................................kentol (2)

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56 NL

Brooklyn Dodgers 93-61................................jpeterso (1)

Milwaukee Braves 92-62................................redcped (1)

Cincinnati Reds 91-63....................................fatguy (3)

St Louis Cardinals 76-78

Philadelphia Phillies 71-83

New York Giants 67-87

Pittsburgh Pirates 66=88

Chicago Cubs 60-94..........................................lenny (3)

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56 AL

New York Yankees 97-57.............................kentol (4)

Cleveland Indians 88-66

Chicago White Sox 85-69...............................BeAllEndAll (1)

Boston Red Sox 84-70......................................beernoser (4)

Detroit Tigers 82-72...........................................ermocito (1)

Baltimore Orioles 69-85........................................jwillis (3)

Washington Senators 59-95...............................peekay (3)

Kansas City Athletics 52-102..............................calhoop (2)
7/31/2023 5:17 PM (edited)
66 NL

Los Angeles Dodgers 95-67............................................razorclams (1)

San Francisco Giants 93-68...........................................whalers (1)

Pittsburgh Pirates 92-70

Philadelphia Phillies 87-75

Atlanta Braves 85-77.........................................jonstephen (4)

St Louis Cardinals 83-79

Cincinnati Reds 76-84

Houston Astros 72-90

New York Mets 66-95...................................3dayrotation (2)

Chicago Cubs 59-103

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66 AL

Baltimore Orioles 97-63............................................Jeff (1)

Minnesota Twins 89-73.............................................BeAllEndAll (4)

Detroit Tigers 88-74

Chicago White Sox 83-79......................................vilefileman (1)

Cleveland Indians 81-81....................................fatguy (4)

California Angels 80-92..................................BeAllEndAll (3)

Kansas City Athletics 74-86.........................jpeterso (3)

Washington Senators 71-88...........................razorclams (3)

Boston Red Sox 72-90...................................Jonstephen (3)

New York Yankees 70-89
7/31/2023 11:59 PM (edited)
1976 NL East

Philadelphia Phillies 101-61 .......................................fatguyrd (1)

Pittsburgh Pirates 92-70...........................................eman (4)

New York Mets 86-76,............................................calhoop (4)

Chicago Cubs 75-87

St Louis Cardinals 72-90.......................................beernoser (3)

Montreal Expos 55-107,..........................................eman (2)

NL West

Cincinnati Reds 102-60...................................eman (1)

Los Angeles Dodgers 92-70............................peekay (4)

Houston Astros 80-82...........................................redcped (4)

San Francisco Giants 74-88........................................kentol (3)

San Diego Padres 73-89.............................................jeff (3)

Atlanta Braves 70-92...................................................razorclams (2)

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AL East

New York Yankees 97-62................................Seay (1)

Baltimore Orioles 88-74

Boston Red Sox 83-79.....................................peekay (1)

Cleveland Indians 81-78..................................vilefileman (3)

Detroit Tigers 74-87.........................................BeAllEndAll (2)

Milwaukee Brewers 66-95..............................midknight (2)

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AL West

Kansas City Royals 90-72..................................midknight (4)

Oakland Athletics 87-74.....................................whalers (4)

Minnesota Twins 85-77

California Angels 76-86...........................................vilefileman (2)

Texas Rangers 76-86..............................................jeff (4)

Chicago White Sox 64-97..........................................Seay (2)
8/1/2023 8:49 PM (edited)
Round One

1 eman7400..............................76 Reds.
2 fatguyrd .................................76 Phillies
3 3dayrotation.............................46 Red Sox
4 jeffc2873...................................66 Orioles
5 lennyistall...................................36 Cardinale
6 midknight..................................26 Cardinals
7 calhoop.....................................36 Pirates
8 whalers10..................................66 Giants
9 vilefileman.................................66 White Sox
10 redcped..................................56 Braves
11 seay00 1.................................76 Yankees
12 kentol......................................46 Cardinals
13 Jpeterso..................................56 Dodgers
14 _jwillis.....................................46 Yankees
15 beernoser...............................46 Tigers
16 ermocito.................................56 Tigers
17 BeAllEndAll............................56 White Sox
18 razorclams.............................66 Dodgers
19 jonstephen25.........................26 Indians
20 peekay....................................76 Red Sox

Round Two (the team being screwed)

1 eman7400 (screwed by lennyistall)..................................76 Expos
2 fatguyrd (screwed by eman)............................................26 Red Sox
3 3dayrotation (screwed by fatguy)....................................66 Mets
4 jeffc2873 (screwed by 3dayrotation)...............................36 Phillies
5 lennyistall (screwed by jeff).............................................46 Giants

6 midknight (screwed by redcped).....................................76 Brewers
7 calhoop (screwed by midknight).....................................56 Athletics
8 whalers10 (screwed by calhoop)...................................46 Pirates
9 vilefileman (screwed by whalers)...................................76 Angels
10 redcped (screwed by vilefileman)...................................36 Reds

11 seay00 1 (screwed by beernoser)................................76 White Sox
12 kentol (screwed by seay00).........................................46 Athletics
13 Jpeterso (screwed by kentol)....................................26 Phillies
14 _jwillis (screwed by jpeterso).....................................46 Browns
15 beernoser (screwed by _jwillis)..................................36 Athletics

16 ermocito (screwed by peekay)....................................36 Browns
17 BeAllEndAll (screwed by ermocito)............................76 Tigers
18 razorclams (screwed by BeAllEndAll)..........................76 Braves
19 jonstephen25 (screwed by razorclams).......................26 Browns
20 peekay (screwed by jonstephen).................................26 Braves
7/24/2023 7:19 PM (edited)
Round Three

1. peekay (screwed by razorclams)..........................................56 Senators
2. jonstephen25 (screwed by BeAllEndsAll).............................66 Red Sox
3. razorclams (screwed by ermocito).....................................66 Senators
4. BeAllEndAll (screwed by peekay).......................................66 Angels
5. ermocito (screwed by jonstephen).......................................26 Robins

6. beernoser (screwed by jpeterso)...........................................76 Cardinals
7. _jwillis (screwed by kentol)...................................................56 Orioles
8. jpeterso (screwed by Seay00).................................................66 Athletics
9. kentol (screwed by beernoser)..............................................76 Giants
10 seay00 (screwed by _jwillis).................................................46 Reds

11 redcped (screwed by whalers).............................................36 Dodgers
12 vilefileman (screwed by calhoop).........................................76 Indians
13 whalers (screwed by midknight)..........................................36 Red Sox
14 calhoop (screwed by redcped)............................................36 White Sox
15 midknight (screwed by vilefileman).....................................36 Senators

16 lennyistall (screwed by 3dayrotation)...................................56 Cubs
17 jeff (screwed by fatguy)......................................................76 Padres
18 3dayrotation (screwed by eman)........................................46 Indians
19 fatguy (screwed by lennyistall)............................................56 Reds
20 eman (screwed by jeff).........................................................36 Bees

Round Four

1. peekay....................................................................................76 Dodgers
2. jonstephen25 Sat 8-11 am.....................................................66 Braves
3. razorclams 11-2 pm................................................................26 Yankees
4. BeAllEndAll 2-5.......................................................................66 Twins
5. ermocito 5-8............................................................................36 Yankees

6. beernoser 8-11........................................................................56 Red Sox
7. _jwillis 11 pm - 8 am Sunday..................................................26 Athletics
8. jpeterso 8-11...........................................................................26 Pirates
9. kentol 11-2..............................................................................56 Yankees
10 seay00 2-5.............................................................................36 Giants

11 redcped 5-8............................................................................76 Astros
12 vilefileman 8-11......................................................................26 Tigers
13 whalers 11-8 am Monday.......................................................76 Athletics
14 calhoop 8-11...........................................................................76 Mets
15 midknight 11-2........................................................................76 Royals

16 lennyistall 2-5...........................................................................46 Cubs
17 jeff 5-8......................................................................................76 Rangers
18 3dayrotation 8-11.....................................................................26 Reds
19 fatguy 11-8am Tuesday...........................................................66 Indians
20 eman 8-11...............................................................................76 Pirates
8/1/2023 8:50 PM (edited)
First Round of Daggers (one player plus one stadium) No need to pick in order

eman daggers jeff......................................Bert Blylevan (P) ......................Jack Murphy Stadium
fatguy daggers lenny...........................................Joe Medwick (OF).................... Polo Grounds
3dayrotation daggers eman...........................Danny MacFayden (P)...............Riverfront Stadium
jeff daggers fatguy..............................................MIke Schmidt (3B)......................Veterans Park
lenny daggers 3dayrotation...............................Ted Williams...............................Shea Stadium

midknight daggers vilefileman.........................Bruce Howard (P).....................Cleveland Stadium
calhoop daggers redcped.....................................Warren Spahn (P).......................Astrodome
whalers daggers midknight...................................Mark Littell (P) ...........................Griffith Stadium
vilefileman daggers calhoop.............................Arky Vaughn (SS)......................Municipal Stadium
redcped daggers whalers.......................................Lefty Grove (P)...........................Fenway Park

seay daggers jwillis.........................................Red Ruffing (P)..............................Memorial Stadium
kentol daggers beernoser...............................Bob Johnson (OF)...........................Busch Stadium
jpeterso daggers seay......................................Mel Ott (OF) .................................Polo Grounds
jwillis daggers kentol.......................................Gil McDougal (SS)..........................Yankee Stadium
beernoser daggers jpeterso.............................Chico Fernandez (SS)..................Baker Bowl

ermocito daggers jonstephen...........................Hank Aaron (OF)........................Sportsman's Park
BeAllEndAll daggers peekay............................Don Sutton (P)............................Dodger Stadium
razorclams daggers ermocito..........................Bill Dickey (C)..........................Ebbetts Field
jonstephen daggers BeAllEndAll......................Tom Veryzer (SS)........................Angels Stadium
peekay daggers razorclams.........................Lou Gehrig (1B)......................Fulton County Stadium

Second Round of Daggers (one player from chosen team)

eman daggers lenny.............................................Stan Hack (3B)
fatguy daggers eman..............................................Ben Cantwell (P)
3dayrotation daggers fatguy.......................................Jack Russell (P)
jeff daggers 3dayrotation..........................................Dennis Ribant (P)
lenny daggers jeff...................................................Mickey Haslin (3B)

midknight daggers redcped............................................Ernie Lombardie (C)
calhoop daggers midknight............................................Jack Heideman (3B)
whalers daggers calhoop...............................................Hector Lopez (3B)
vilefileman daggers whalers..........................................Bill Salkeld (C)
redcped daggers vilefileman.........................................Frank Tanana (P)

seay daggers beernoser....................................................Pete Falcone (P)
kentol daggers seay.......................................................Ed Figueroa (P)
jpeterso daggers kentol..................................................John Montefusco (P)
jwillis daggers jpeterso........................................................Cy Williams (OF)
beernoser daggers jwillis.....................................................Grady Hatton (2B)

ermocito daggers peekay....................................................Dave Bancroft (SS)
BeAllEndAll daggers ermocito...........................................Rollie Hemsley (c)
raxorclams daggers BeAllEnd All.......................................Dean Chance (P)
jonstephen daggers razorclams............................................Don Blasingame (3B)
peekay daggers jonstephen.................................................Jose Santiago (P)
8/8/2023 1:19 AM (edited)
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