Bumping this thread, any new input from anyone? I ran uptempo again this year and still feel the same way about it.
2/8/2010 10:53 PM
Well, for me still, the largest factors for running uptempo seem to be stamina and depth, and anything else is massively less important than those two.
2/8/2010 10:59 PM
Yeah depth is a good point and i believe it was brought up earlier in this thread as well.

There was some very good debate amongst some really good coaches about uptempo in this thread and figured a month later there might be some more thoughts.
2/8/2010 11:04 PM
I don't have any significant data to report on. I shouldn't say such a thing so blindly, however it's possible playing uptempo reduces TO per possession as opposed to playing slow down. It's probably one of the main reasons I have played UT, unless there is a team I'm playing that is significantly more talented. I don't want to go into any indepth strategies here, but it works for my team.
2/9/2010 12:48 AM
let me pose the core question in a slightly different way

does uptempo cause BOTH teams to have to go deeper into their bench? lets say that I play 10 deep and my opponent has 8 quality players - do y'all believe that his 4 weak players will get more mins if I go uptempo?
2/9/2010 6:44 AM
Yes, I agree with that premise. Fatigue is possession based, and it's of course causing both teams to have more possessions.
2/9/2010 7:28 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By dalter on 2/09/2010Yes, I agree with that premise. Fatigue is possession based, and it's of course causing both teams to have more possessions.
I agree with that, what I have noticed tho, and completely disagree with, is that when slowdown is played v uptempo, the slowdown seems to completely dictate the speed of the game.
2/9/2010 8:54 AM
So what is Tarek Kamil doing nowadays? Too much HD fatigue so he decided to move on?

(Yes, I am resurrecting this from a reference on page 1.)
2/9/2010 10:21 AM
One thing no one has really touched on before I get to my points on uptempos (Ive really focused on changing tempo game to game the last 2-3 months with all my teams and have noticed a couple of things):

1) I think people aren't being fair when not differentiating between transition scoring and regular offense set. From everything I've read, seen in PbPs and discussed with CS in the past the only time tempo really matters in when your in the offensive base offense. No matter what tempo you run, there are still going to be times when your team gets a basket in transition. So the example on page one or two where the team grabs the rebound and puts up a shot in 5-seconds is not nec. the tempo setting so much as it is transition scoring. I've run slowdown and seen the same result.

As to uptempo:

2) I completely agree that the tempo you run should impact the other teams stamina more than your own as defense is what uses more energy. I personally think a slowdown should tire the other team more than the other sets as they are playing defense longer. Uptempo, despite the added possessions may not ulimately lead to the other team defending more total minutes and should therefore have the most limited impact; However, that is no how HD works;

3) Under the current system I tend to agree with Lost, Mully and Z who think that running uptempo can be a valuable weapon. I'll try not to repeat what they've already said. First, I opperate under the premise that when I run uptempo, my team will shoot a lower %, specifically from 3 point range. Therefore, if I have a team which I have set to shoot a lot of 3PAs and I have a clear rebounding edge, I like the uptempo. It tends to lead to the lower % as others have suggested but the difference in 2nd chance points and the loss of FG% makes is worth the dropoff. The other big factors as Z and Lost have said is a) you force the other team into more possessions, which leads to more turnovers b) Takes away the variance of losing to lesser teams...specifically when playing against a slowdown.

4) Quick points. I almost never run uptempo against a zone because I believe shooting quickly against a zone plays into the defenses hands. I almost never run slowdown v. a good man2man team for the same reason. I try not to run uptempo on the road against a team as talented as mine OR even v. run a little less talented on the road as I feel the drop off in FG% combined with the disadvantage of the other teams HCA cancels any gained benefit.

I'm sure there is probably alot I've out but tempo is something I put more time into in gameplanning than many other factors as I think the decision of which to play can be the difference between winning and losing.
2/9/2010 11:47 AM
Quote: Originally posted by metsmax on 2/09/2010let me pose the core question in a slightly different waydoes uptempo cause BOTH teams to have to go deeper into their bench?  lets say that I play 10 deep and my opponent has 8 quality players - do y'all believe that his 4 weak players will get more mins if I go uptempo?

THat has been my experience.
2/9/2010 6:32 PM
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