Round 2 Standings, 2018 Topic

That's true, since there are fewer points available at every stage until you win the WS. The interesting piece of this approach is that is simultaneously tilts the balance towards quality (regular season points) and luck (WS winner), while removing other areas of luck (division alignment + LDS + LCS)
2/21/2019 1:46 AM
I have mixed feelings about the scoring change.

On one hand, I typically do better in the regular season than in the playoffs, so of course, any change to lower the playoff points probably helps me.

On the other hand, you lose the balance of trying to win as many regular seasons games as possible vs trying to build a team that excels in the playoffs. Under the new scoring rules (I like A better than B), I will try even harder to focus on the regular season, since the playoffs don't really add much.

The significance of the playoffs really comes down to how it affects who advances (to round 2) and who doesn't advance. Or if it's close at the top of round2, who wins and who finishes 2nd, 3rd, etc. I like to think of the playoff bonus points as kind of a tie-breaker when all other things are equal. Yes, there is a ton of luck in the playoffs. But just as much luck as there is with the divisional alignment and how many playoff teams somebody gets (i.e., 5th most round2 wins, but only one playoff team for me & dippedncrack).

The bottom lines comes down to how much do you want the playoffs to matter? It's easy enough to calculate the playoff points vs regular season points to see what the percentage is. Answer: a little over 5% of the total points comes from playoffs. For those advancing to round 2, it works out to be about 10-11%.

Is that considered too high? I don't know. The goal when you build a sim roster is to win the World Series, isn't it? Actually, in my mind, I usually just try to win 95-100 games and hope to get lucky in the playoffs. I will probably still continue to build my teams the same way especially if the scoring for playoffs is lowered.
2/21/2019 11:54 AM
Scoring change A. I like it, the Playoffs were overvalued and too much of a crapshoot. A built-in bonus of making the playoffs and advancing is that you get to play on for more Wins.I think 10 points for the WS is too wild, I'd rather spread it out a little, maybe 2 points each round instead of 5, then 5 more for the WS.
2/22/2019 12:10 AM
wink0094 has locked up the fourth place spot. Big congrats to him. Doing that well in your first tournament appearance is not easy
2/22/2019 1:52 PM
Current standings. 4 WS still in progress
Round 1 Rank Round 2 Rank Overall Rank Owner Season Playoffs Round 1 Total Penalty Round 2 Total Total
70M 90M 100M 110M 130M 140M Wins Win% Last Cycle Teams Made LCS Made WS Won WS Points
1 1 1 ozomatli 94 98 90 89 91 95 557 0.573 3-3 5 4 4 98 696 655 1003
4 2 2 jmissirlis 90 88 92 86 92 98 546 0.562 2-4 6 1 46 657 592 920.5
8 3 3 discodemo 89 90 71 86 79 88 503 0.517 4-2 4 3 3 1 83 637 586 904.5
9 4 4 wink0094 69 83 91 79 92 87 501 0.515 3-3 3 3 2 62 630 563 878
3 8 4 jfranco77 90 85 86 80 91 87 519 0.534 5-1 3 1 27 664 546 878
10 5 6 crystalao 85 72 94 82 89 86 508 0.523 2-4 2 2 1 1 47 621 555 865.5
2 11 7 brianjw 88 83 71 86 78 83 489 0.503 3-3 3 1 28 693 517 863.5
5 9 8 mildnhazy 84 78 79 82 90 91 504 0.518 4-2 3 1 28 651 532 857.5
12 7 9 justinlee_24 88 94 92 86 79 84 523 0.538 1-5 3 1 25 592 548 844
13 6 10 rbow923 85 80 82 91 86 81 505 0.519 2-4 3 2 1 44 585 549 841.5
19 10 11 dippedncrack / schwarze 85 96 79 87 87 80 514 0.528 0-6 1 1 14 548 528 802
6 17 12 buddhagamer 67 69 79 88 70 82 455 0.468 5-1 1 1 15 649 470 794.5
7 20 13 jbohrman 67 79 85 80 67 83 461 0.474 3-3 0 0 648 461 785
16 12 14 redcped 91 71 79 78 93 75 487 0.501 4-2 2 12 559 499 778.5
11 18 15 dougpalm 85 75 83 73 72 78 466 0.479 1-5 0 0 595 466 763.5
23 13 16 newarkwilder 80 70 95 69 74 78 466 0.479 3-3 1 1 1 24 541 490 760.5
22 14 17 mdc2276 68 75 82 80 97 82 484 0.498 4-2 1 7 545 6 485 757.5
20 15 17 magicdreamer 82 73 70 81 81 83 470 0.484 4-2 1 1 14 547 484 757.5
17 16 19 Donburgh 80 83 66 83 85 64 461 0.474 5-1 1 1 14 551 475 750.5
15 23 20 Humdogs 75 80 68 62 77 90 452 0.465 2-4 1 6 564 458 740
21 19 21 Jdh34 73 86 78 78 64 78 457 0.470 4-2 1 6 546 463 736
18 22 22 odalisgagne 80 81 69 76 69 77 452 0.465 4-2 1 7 551 459 734.5
25 20 23 ejstockman 74 78 80 90 79 55 456 0.469 3-3 1 5 535 461 728.5
14 24 24 mpitt76 76 77 83 73 62 59 430 0.442 1-5 1 6 583 436 727.5
2/22/2019 1:53 PM
If disco beats me two more times and goes 3/3 in the WS, he'll take over 2nd place from jmissirlis on the tiebreaker
2/22/2019 1:55 PM
Posted by ozomatli on 2/22/2019 1:52:00 PM (view original):
wink0094 has locked up the fourth place spot. Big congrats to him. Doing that well in your first tournament appearance is not easy
Thanks ozo. Big congrats to you on your dominating tournament win.
2/22/2019 4:34 PM
Well, idk about dominating. We are 0-2 in the WS so far and are trending towards 0-4. It'd be kind of weird to win the tournament by ~100 points and not even get 1 WS in Round 2
2/23/2019 1:31 PM
FINAL STANDINGS
Round 1 Rank Round 2 Rank Overall Rank Owner Season Playoffs Round 1 Total Penalty Round 2 Total Total
70M 90M 100M 110M 130M 140M Wins Win% Last Cycle Teams Made LCS Made WS Won WS Points
1 1 1 ozomatli 94 98 90 89 91 95 557 0.573 3-3 5 4 4 1 110 696 667 1015
4 3 2 jmissirlis 90 88 92 86 92 98 546 0.562 2-4 6 1 46 657 592 920.5
8 2 3 discodemo 89 90 71 86 79 88 503 0.517 4-2 4 3 3 2 92 637 595 913.5
9 4 4 wink0094 69 83 91 79 92 87 501 0.515 3-3 3 3 2 2 76 630 577 892
3 8 5 jfranco77 90 85 86 80 91 87 519 0.534 5-1 3 1 27 664 546 878
10 5 6 crystalao 85 72 94 82 89 86 508 0.523 2-4 2 2 1 1 47 621 555 865.5
2 11 7 brianjw 88 83 71 86 78 83 489 0.503 3-3 3 1 28 693 517 863.5
5 9 8 mildnhazy 84 78 79 82 90 91 504 0.518 4-2 3 1 28 651 532 857.5
12 7 9 justinlee_24 88 94 92 86 79 84 523 0.538 1-5 3 1 25 592 548 844
13 6 10 rbow923 85 80 82 91 86 81 505 0.519 2-4 3 2 1 45 585 550 842.5
19 10 11 dippedncrack / schwarze 85 96 79 87 87 80 514 0.528 0-6 1 1 14 548 528 802
6 17 12 buddhagamer 67 69 79 88 70 82 455 0.468 5-1 1 1 15 649 470 794.5
7 20 13 jbohrman 67 79 85 80 67 83 461 0.474 3-3 0 0 648 461 785
16 12 14 redcped 91 71 79 78 93 75 487 0.501 4-2 2 12 559 499 778.5
11 18 15 dougpalm 85 75 83 73 72 78 466 0.479 1-5 0 0 595 466 763.5
23 13 16 newarkwilder 80 70 95 69 74 78 466 0.479 3-3 1 1 1 24 541 490 760.5
22 14 17 mdc2276 68 75 82 80 97 82 484 0.498 4-2 1 7 545 6 485 757.5
20 15 17 magicdreamer 82 73 70 81 81 83 470 0.484 4-2 1 1 14 547 484 757.5
17 16 19 Donburgh 80 83 66 83 85 64 461 0.474 5-1 1 1 14 551 475 750.5
15 23 20 Humdogs 75 80 68 62 77 90 452 0.465 2-4 1 6 564 458 740
21 19 21 Jdh34 73 86 78 78 64 78 457 0.470 4-2 1 6 546 463 736
18 22 22 odalisgagne 80 81 69 76 69 77 452 0.465 4-2 1 7 551 459 734.5
25 20 23 ejstockman 74 78 80 90 79 55 456 0.469 3-3 1 5 535 461 728.5
14 24 24 mpitt76 76 77 83 73 62 59 430 0.442 1-5 1 6 583 436 727.5
2/24/2019 2:23 AM
Thanks everyone for a great year.

Signups for the 2019 tournament will begin in May. Hope to see everyone back
2/24/2019 2:24 AM
Sent in the ticket to have prizes distributed
2/24/2019 2:50 AM
Congratulations Mike! Clearing 1000 points is no easy feat - with the scoring changes it might never get done again :)

And I think Option A is pretty good. I think it will lead to more 'realistic' teams. Here are three strategies that one might follow in team building.

1) The Billy Beane model - maximise regular season wins then invest in lucky charms for the playoffs.
2) The normal MLB model - mostly maximise regular season wins, but if necessary live with 1 dodgy starter and a weak bench, because they won't get used in the playoffs.
3) The traditional WIS model - Spend whatever resources you can (consistent with the rules) to get Milacki, Hill, etc, and have them start (at least) every elimination game you might play. Then try and win as many regular season games as you can with what money you have left.

I think the change will move us from 3 to 2, or at least to 2.5 (e.g., take one of the short starters, but not 3-4 of them) and that's a good thing.
2/24/2019 9:33 PM
Prizes should have been distributed. Sitemail me if you haven't received yours.
3/1/2019 5:03 PM
Anyone else win a TOC with a Round 2 team? My 140M team just did
4/4/2019 1:08 PM
Posted by ozomatli on 2/24/2019 2:24:00 AM (view original):
Thanks everyone for a great year.

Signups for the 2019 tournament will begin in May. Hope to see everyone back
Do we get a sneak peek at themes or are they still being tinkered with? :)
4/9/2019 12:07 PM
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