also, in support of your point sports:
Last Ten year dynasties - division 3 AllWorlds unweighted
Place, Score, Team, Conference-World-Start Season, Coach(es)
1 279 Beloit Midwest-2-108 xulapaul
2 251 Louisiana University-1-108 xulapaul
3 231 Colorado S. Cal.-1-108 uiact23
4 224 Texas, Tyler S. Cal.-8-152 jschirn
5 223 Colorado S. Cal.-5-106 piman314
6 223 Texas, Tyler S. Cal.-4-107 qb4usf
7 221 Ozarks University-1-108 ggallagh
8 220 Texas, Tyler S. Cal.-5-106 hitmonjake pknock1215
9 217 Palm Beach Atlantic USA South-4-107 uiact23
10 211 CMHMS S. Cal.-5-106 zemedlin

one of the all time great d3 coaches with 2 teams there, no doubt. i don't know if he (xulapaul) has more teams but those are his only 2 in the top 100 (i suspect his only 2 - getting a top 100 team in d3 when there are 600 or whatever coaches is just not that difficult, i am not suggesting someone couldn't get 5 teams in the top 100, but i do think 5 teams in the top 10 is quite hard - doable - but beyond what has ever been done). anyway, if you said, im sure he could pick up a 3rd team and get it up there near the top - i'd agree, 2 primary teams is not a hard limit but we all have the rest of our lives. could he have 5 teams like that... if someone paid him enough, i'm sure he could :) but still, that's a lot of work!

Good to know Lincoln is that high. Didn't expect 3, more around 5ish. We'll check back in 6 months. I have the goal of being able to get 3-4 of my 5 teams in the top 10. We'll see if that can happen. I can sitemail you if you'd like about the classes I have to see if you think it'll happen.

i can't project that stuff out with d2 or d3 teams, only familiar with d1 look and feel in 3.0. i definitely wish you luck though! 6 titles in your first 64 seasons is really good, i love to see stuff like that, and with how much learning and rebuilding is baked into those early seasons, i'm eager to see where you stand in another 30-60.

Me too. I underwent many rebuilds in my first seasons so 6/64 isn't where I want to be, but as all my teams are out of rebuilds besides one, I expect that % to increase a lot hopefully. I guess the math I did the other day shows I'm 6/41 if you take out rebuilds, so that's a bit better, but still not where I want to be eventually percentage-wise. Hope to be in touch, you add fascinating posts to the forum.

Just caught up on this. My 2 cents:

1. Make it easy to actually spend money on this site. There's absolutely no reason payment should be a multi-step process of checking whether a team is renewed, checking if enough seasons are purchased, and then actually applying those seasons manually. Amazon has 1-click ordering because they had this wild idea that making it easier for customers to order things actually made them order things more.

2. Get rid of the archaic season packs and solve above. Stripe makes it stupid simple these days. Move to a monthly, auto-charged subscription. If someone complains about being auto-charged, they must not have netflix, spotify, or the dozens of other popular services that already do this.

3. Get rid of reward credits and further simplify. Maybe credits worked at the height of this game when there were an abundance of new coaches, but that's not now. The people who play most should be funding this site, not the new coaches this site has such a hard time getting and keeping. As it is now, it's essentially a Ponzi scheme where new coaches fund seasons for elite programs. It's clear that this site lacks development funding, and a lot of money is being wasted here. Reward veterans by offering multi-world coaching discounts, or diverting some of that revenue into lowering the monthly cost for all.

Again, I'm not saying maintaining an A+ is anything meaningful. I don't have a ton of time invested either. About 3 years real life. But playing ALL sets and combos (except zone!), and across all worlds....... all I'm saying is to not have a time where I regress for even ONE season (as far as prestige), to me that just shows the effort and consistency that you're talking about in my opinion. I'm not saying it's a great accomplishment.

I'm saying that in order to do that, one has to be focused on how to properly setup and manage a consistent roster. I don't have years where the season rolls and then see "oops, I don't have anyone with +40 PAS to run PG, I'm screwed!"

As far as time invested.... not even remotely close to what you suggested. 30 min? An hour on games? No way would I spend that kinda time. It's not needed. But I think you're selling the community short if you don't think there are coaches out there that can construct a roster correctly time and time again, that checks every box. There's much more than just a handful or just me. In my opinion it kinda comes natural once you grasp the game if you're willing to invest the time needed to do so

As it is now, it's essentially a Ponzi scheme where new coaches fund seasons for elite programs.

Haha, so true.

Posted by Basketts on 6/16/2020 1:38:00 AM (view original):
Just caught up on this. My 2 cents:

1. Make it easy to actually spend money on this site. There's absolutely no reason payment should be a multi-step process of checking whether a team is renewed, checking if enough seasons are purchased, and then actually applying those seasons manually. Amazon has 1-click ordering because they had this wild idea that making it easier for customers to order things actually made them order things more.

2. Get rid of the archaic season packs and solve above. Stripe makes it stupid simple these days. Move to a monthly, auto-charged subscription. If someone complains about being auto-charged, they must not have netflix, spotify, or the dozens of other popular services that already do this.

3. Get rid of reward credits and further simplify. Maybe credits worked at the height of this game when there were an abundance of new coaches, but that's not now. The people who play most should be funding this site, not the new coaches this site has such a hard time getting and keeping. As it is now, it's essentially a Ponzi scheme where new coaches fund seasons for elite programs. It's clear that this site lacks development funding, and a lot of money is being wasted here. Reward veterans by offering multi-world coaching discounts, or diverting some of that revenue into lowering the monthly cost for all.

+1

Can you imagine the backlash though if coaches who are used to playing essentially for free all of a sudden had to cough up 12 bucks per season? There'd be a mass exodus and each world would turn into a ghost town. They're stuck.

Posted by Baums_away on 6/16/2020 12:34:00 PM (view original):
Can you imagine the backlash though if coaches who are used to playing essentially for free all of a sudden had to cough up 12 bucks per season? There'd be a mass exodus and each world would turn into a ghost town. They're stuck.

I haven't paid for this game in years, so obviously I wouldn't like it but I wouldn't quit. I may cut back on a team or two.

I think the best thing is a balance. Reduce the cost of the season from $13 to something more reasonable like $5 and restructure the rewards so the new guy isn't taking most of the financial burden of keeping this game alive. It's so *** backwards.

Posted by Benis on 6/16/2020 2:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Baums_away on 6/16/2020 12:34:00 PM (view original):
Can you imagine the backlash though if coaches who are used to playing essentially for free all of a sudden had to cough up 12 bucks per season? There'd be a mass exodus and each world would turn into a ghost town. They're stuck.

I haven't paid for this game in years, so obviously I wouldn't like it but I wouldn't quit. I may cut back on a team or two.

I think the best thing is a balance. Reduce the cost of the season from $13 to something more reasonable like $5 and restructure the rewards so the new guy isn't taking most of the financial burden of keeping this game alive. It's so *** backwards.

Benis has released a plan in the past I fully support.

Posted by cubcub113 on 6/16/2020 3:26:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Benis on 6/16/2020 2:59:00 PM (view original):

Posted by Baums_away on 6/16/2020 12:34:00 PM (view original):
Can you imagine the backlash though if coaches who are used to playing essentially for free all of a sudden had to cough up 12 bucks per season? There'd be a mass exodus and each world would turn into a ghost town. They're stuck.

I haven't paid for this game in years, so obviously I wouldn't like it but I wouldn't quit. I may cut back on a team or two.

I think the best thing is a balance. Reduce the cost of the season from $13 to something more reasonable like $5 and restructure the rewards so the new guy isn't taking most of the financial burden of keeping this game alive. It's so *** backwards.

Benis has released a plan in the past I fully support.

7.0.3

Haha thanks brother, it's a great plan! I came up with that immediately before finalizing the latest $2 Trillion stimulus package - you're welcome all.

If I had to pay $5 per season but that meant we could see ongoing improvements and support, I wouldn't drop any teams and would take that trade in a second.

The other thing here that might be worth considering.. if the populations DID grow, Seble's one man band would be so overwhelmed with support tickets, he wouldn't see his wife and kids for months. But without more people, the game doesn't grow. If the game doesn't grow, you can't hire more people to support the game. Your classic paradox.

If I had to pay $5 per season but that meant we could see ongoing improvements and support, I wouldn't drop any teams and would take that trade in a second.

That would be the big caveat. I think most vets wouldn't mind paying for a game they love, but they will also be the most demanding on that money actually being spent on active development/new player promotion, and rightfully so.

Posted by gillispie1 on 6/15/2020 11:16:00 PM (view original):
also, in support of your point sports:
Last Ten year dynasties - division 3 AllWorlds unweighted
Place, Score, Team, Conference-World-Start Season, Coach(es)
1 279 Beloit Midwest-2-108 xulapaul
2 251 Louisiana University-1-108 xulapaul
3 231 Colorado S. Cal.-1-108 uiact23
4 224 Texas, Tyler S. Cal.-8-152 jschirn
5 223 Colorado S. Cal.-5-106 piman314
6 223 Texas, Tyler S. Cal.-4-107 qb4usf
7 221 Ozarks University-1-108 ggallagh
8 220 Texas, Tyler S. Cal.-5-106 hitmonjake pknock1215
9 217 Palm Beach Atlantic USA South-4-107 uiact23
10 211 CMHMS S. Cal.-5-106 zemedlin

one of the all time great d3 coaches with 2 teams there, no doubt. i don't know if he (xulapaul) has more teams but those are his only 2 in the top 100 (i suspect his only 2 - getting a top 100 team in d3 when there are 600 or whatever coaches is just not that difficult, i am not suggesting someone couldn't get 5 teams in the top 100, but i do think 5 teams in the top 10 is quite hard - doable - but beyond what has ever been done). anyway, if you said, im sure he could pick up a 3rd team and get it up there near the top - i'd agree, 2 primary teams is not a hard limit but we all have the rest of our lives. could he have 5 teams like that... if someone paid him enough, i'm sure he could :) but still, that's a lot of work!

I wonder if it's just a coincidence that 6 of the top 10 teams in that list are from the So.Cal conference?

Posted by emy1013 on 6/19/2020 11:27:00 AM (view original):

Posted by gillispie1 on 6/15/2020 11:16:00 PM (view original):
also, in support of your point sports:
Last Ten year dynasties - division 3 AllWorlds unweighted
Place, Score, Team, Conference-World-Start Season, Coach(es)
1 279 Beloit Midwest-2-108 xulapaul
2 251 Louisiana University-1-108 xulapaul
3 231 Colorado S. Cal.-1-108 uiact23
4 224 Texas, Tyler S. Cal.-8-152 jschirn
5 223 Colorado S. Cal.-5-106 piman314
6 223 Texas, Tyler S. Cal.-4-107 qb4usf
7 221 Ozarks University-1-108 ggallagh
8 220 Texas, Tyler S. Cal.-5-106 hitmonjake pknock1215
9 217 Palm Beach Atlantic USA South-4-107 uiact23
10 211 CMHMS S. Cal.-5-106 zemedlin

one of the all time great d3 coaches with 2 teams there, no doubt. i don't know if he (xulapaul) has more teams but those are his only 2 in the top 100 (i suspect his only 2 - getting a top 100 team in d3 when there are 600 or whatever coaches is just not that difficult, i am not suggesting someone couldn't get 5 teams in the top 100, but i do think 5 teams in the top 10 is quite hard - doable - but beyond what has ever been done). anyway, if you said, im sure he could pick up a 3rd team and get it up there near the top - i'd agree, 2 primary teams is not a hard limit but we all have the rest of our lives. could he have 5 teams like that... if someone paid him enough, i'm sure he could :) but still, that's a lot of work!

I wonder if it's just a coincidence that 6 of the top 10 teams in that list are from the So.Cal conference?

Literally 9 of 10 are So. Cal, Palm Beach, or xulapaul.