Posted by dino27 on 5/17/2021 4:08:00 PM (view original):
And to you and all the other pieces of crap name an Arab country that isn’t an Islamic state.
or Vatican City is a sovereign state - who cares.
or all the catholic countries where catholism is a state endorsed religion or India which teeters on having Hinduism as a state religion and has an extremely powerful hindu political party or Costa Rica which has Roman Catholicism has its official state religion.
there are many many more examples but Jew haters complain about Israel.

Again you've made my point that it's all "Killing for Religion" no matter how you dress it up. The entire "land" debate doesn't get fixed without some massive compromises on both sides and everybody is too entrenched to give. You've put forth an entire slate of opinions and or facts that I'm not arguing with. But do you really think the Palestinians are just going to give up and say, "Hey, the demands we've been making for peace for decades, well **** those because we're lucky with what we have? You blame them for not taking the last compromise but look at a map. Israel now completely dominates over what they both call their holy land. Is that fair? Is the world supposed to look the other way because of what Hitler in the 40's when people are dying in 2021? The "Beating of the Chest" foreign policy currently being employed by Israel is understandable, but it still doesn't make it right. People are dying. Both sides are responsible. There's FAR too much of this in the world today. MOST of it is based on religion.

Posted by rsp777 on 5/17/2021 5:57:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 5/17/2021 4:08:00 PM (view original):
And to you and all the other pieces of crap name an Arab country that isn’t an Islamic state.
or Vatican City is a sovereign state - who cares.
or all the catholic countries where catholism is a state endorsed religion or India which teeters on having Hinduism as a state religion and has an extremely powerful hindu political party or Costa Rica which has Roman Catholicism has its official state religion.
there are many many more examples but Jew haters complain about Israel.

Again you've made my point that it's all "Killing for Religion" no matter how you dress it up. The entire "land" debate doesn't get fixed without some massive compromises on both sides and everybody is too entrenched to give. You've put forth an entire slate of opinions and or facts that I'm not arguing with. But do you really think the Palestinians are just going to give up and say, "Hey, the demands we've been making for peace for decades, well **** those because we're lucky with what we have? You blame them for not taking the last compromise but look at a map. Israel now completely dominates over what they both call their holy land. Is that fair? Is the world supposed to look the other way because of what Hitler in the 40's when people are dying in 2021? The "Beating of the Chest" foreign policy currently being employed by Israel is understandable, but it still doesn't make it right. People are dying. Both sides are responsible. There's FAR too much of this in the world today. MOST of it is based on religion.

You don’t seem to understand. Israel wants the Palestinian state to have the whole land from the original mandate which includes East Jerusulam as their capitol with shared access to holy sites. In other words the Palestinians would have complete state sovereignty without occupation.
the Palestinians have refused this several times.
they want 4-5 million people to immediately enter the Israel part and become Israeli citizens.

I truly do not understand what is so hard to understand about this.

you do know that the Jews built West Jerusulam and have always lived there I would hope.

Between Arabs and Jews this is about land.
others bring in religion to complain about Jews.
the Palestinians think every inch of the Middle East is Arab and the Jews should have nothing.
their compromise is to flood Israel with non Jews and turn it in 15-20 years.

Posted by dino27 on 5/17/2021 4:52:00 PM (view original):
No - I’m just saying that various majority controlled populations of every religion and ethnicity exists and will exist because that’s how those countries were originated and they simply perpetuate the status quo very naturally and most have no policy to exclude. They simply exist as certain kinds of majority populated countries. They don’t seek more diversity and no one is saying they need to change.

you just live to twist what people say and put words in their mouth. It makes your puny ego feel better about itself.

you are a disgrace to feces.

Do you think Israel should/currently does restrict its immigration such that the population remains majority-Jewish?

If not, how can you possibly believe it to be a "Jewish State"?

Posted by tangplay on 5/17/2021 6:24:00 PM (view original):

Posted by dino27 on 5/17/2021 4:52:00 PM (view original):
No - I’m just saying that various majority controlled populations of every religion and ethnicity exists and will exist because that’s how those countries were originated and they simply perpetuate the status quo very naturally and most have no policy to exclude. They simply exist as certain kinds of majority populated countries. They don’t seek more diversity and no one is saying they need to change.

you just live to twist what people say and put words in their mouth. It makes your puny ego feel better about itself.

you are a disgrace to feces.

Do you think Israel should/currently does restrict its immigration such that the population remains majority-Jewish?

If not, how can you possibly believe it to be a "Jewish State"?

Idiot - Israel isn’t and does not have to be the United States. It admits plenty of non Jews for residence and for citizenship if there is Jewish blood. And some that are just not Jewish entirely but a crowded country the size of New Jersey with plenty of desert can only take in a small amount of people.

you don’t like that Jews can have their own country
and I say you have a hatred for Jews.

I note that you didn't answer the question.

I don’t understand the question or the resin for it.

If you think that Jewish people have a right to a state, how should that manifest? Should Israel ensure that its population is majority Jewish? Let's say the population becomes majority Arab, but Israelis within the country have the exact same level of human rights. Is Israel still a Jewish State?

It is manifest.
the future is yet to be written.
I don’t have a crystal ball.

I asked you a "should" question, not a "will" question, coward.

I will not play your game.
there is a Jewish state.
I cannot predict the future or the means that it remains the Jewish state.
or the evolution of Israel and land within it.
my belief is that it will remain a Jewish state and the population differential will always remain as is.

and absolutely it should always remain the Jewish state for as long as that is the wish of the Jewish people no doubt about that...because that is the origin and the history and the heritage.

Coward

Posted by bronxcheer on 5/18/2021 1:24:00 PM (view original):
Coward

How am I a coward you Jew hater.

Posted by dino27 on 5/18/2021 1:14:00 PM (view original):
I will not play your game.
there is a Jewish state.
I cannot predict the future or the means that it remains the Jewish state.
or the evolution of Israel and land within it.
my belief is that it will remain a Jewish state and the population differential will always remain as is.

and absolutely it should always remain the Jewish state for as long as that is the wish of the Jewish people no doubt about that...because that is the origin and the history and the heritage.

You're such a coward

I'm asking what Israel SHOULD do.

And I said that it should remain the Jewish state.
by Israel.