Quote: Originally posted by hughesjr on :([/QUOTE]You are going to quit (or are at least are threatening to ... we will see if you actually pull the trigger on that or not). So because you are leaving that means that there is going to be a mass exodus? Methinks you MIGHT be overstating this a bit.
Maybe you are not overstating it.

One thing I know for sure. If you are not having fun, then I don't recommend you play this game. It is a game and it should be fun. If it is not, you should find something that is fun for you to do with your time and money.

Quote: Originally posted by weirdrash on 5/29/2010

Quote: Originally posted by hughesjr on :([/QUOTE]You are going to quit (or are at least are threatening to ... we will see if you actually pull the trigger on that or not). So because you are leaving that means that there is going to be a mass exodus? Methinks you MIGHT be overstating this a bit.Maybe you are not overstating it.

One thing I know for sure. If you are not having fun, then I don't recommend you play this game. It is a game and it should be fun. If it is not, you should find something that is fun for you to do with your time and money.

This coming from a guy with ONE DIII team. You haven't even spent enough money for us to value your opinion on this matter.

Quote: Originally Posted By tracyr on 5/29/2010
given the things that have been broken in the game over the years, we would still be on one world in about year 10 - if they went back and replayed everything when they discovered something was wrong

there is no possible way things were so bad that games needed to be replayed

none



There is a difference between something you "think" is broken and something happening with the program, in my opinion.

Quote: Originally posted by tracyr on 5/29/2010given the things that have been broken in the game over the years, we would still be on one world in about year 10 - if they went back and replayed everything when they discovered something was wrongthere is no possible way things were so bad that games needed to be replayednone

Quote: Originally posted by tannermcc on 5/29/2010All this has taught seble is

- if something goes wrong just fix it
- if someone notices just say it was a display error and in no way effected anything (which i seem to remember happening alot under the tarek run HD)

you guys are punishing seble for being honest and doing the right thing here.

Quote: Originally posted by jthieme1 on 5/29/2010I keep going back and looking at the bracket and wondering "What if" (pun inteneded).I beat both teams in playing for the NT in DII - One by 30+ in the regular season and the other in OT while going into the Final Four only to lose in the Sweet 16 do over.Thought I had a chance for my first NT under this log-in.GL montanabase3 and fatchance in the big game. 

Quote: Originally posted by seble on 5/29/2010After some discussion here and some work to recover the results of the original games, I've come up with the following structure for credit compensation for those negatively affected by the replay of games.

$5 credit for teams that lost in the Sweet 16 in the replay and lost in the Elite 8 in the original run
$17.95 ($5 + free season) for teams that lost in the Elite 8 in the replay and lost in the Final 4 in the original run
$22.95 ($10 + free season) for teams that lost in the Sweet 16 in the replay and lost in the Final 4 in the original run

So essentially, credits were given to make up the difference lost from original to replay and in addition a free season credit has been added for teams that were still alive in the original run.

I know this doesn't erase the frustration for those who lost in the replay, but at least it makes up for the loss in credits. This was clearly a no-win situation, but I felt (and still do) that the integrity of the game would have been compromised more by not replaying the games. I know some of you feel differently, but to me those original games weren't valid. Maybe the ratings changes didn't affect the outcome of every game, but the point is that it didn't affect all teams equally, so the changes were relevant to the outcomes.

Hopefully nothing like this happens again, but if it does I'll certainly take more time before deciding on a solution. I'm still surprised by the strong reaction. I expected those who won in the original run to be upset, but I also expected most people to understand that those games weren't valid and that a replay was the fairest solution. The impression I have now is that most of you guys feel it's better to keep the original results (even if invalid) over replaying the games. I don't agree with that, but I understand the problems with a replay.

So I apologize again about all of this and I hope we can move past it and enjoy the game.

Quote: Originally Posted By seble on 5/29/2010After some discussion here and some work to recover the results of the original games, I've come up with the following structure for credit compensation for those negatively affected by the replay of games.

$5 credit for teams that lost in the Sweet 16 in the replay and lost in the Elite 8 in the original run
$17.95 ($5 + free season) for teams that lost in the Elite 8 in the replay and lost in the Final 4 in the original run
$22.95 ($10 + free season) for teams that lost in the Sweet 16 in the replay and lost in the Final 4 in the original run

So essentially, credits were given to make up the difference lost from original to replay and in addition a free season credit has been added for teams that were still alive in the original run.

I know this doesn't erase the frustration for those who lost in the replay, but at least it makes up for the loss in credits. This was clearly a no-win situation, but I felt (and still do) that the integrity of the game would have been compromised more by not replaying the games. I know some of you feel differently, but to me those original games weren't valid. Maybe the ratings changes didn't affect the outcome of every game, but the point is that it didn't affect all teams equally, so the changes were relevant to the outcomes.

Hopefully nothing like this happens again, but if it does I'll certainly take more time before deciding on a solution. I'm still surprised by the strong reaction. I expected those who won in the original run to be upset, but I also expected most people to understand that those games weren't valid and that a replay was the fairest solution. The impression I have now is that most of you guys feel it's better to keep the original results (even if invalid) over replaying the games. I don't agree with that, but I understand the problems with a replay.

So I apologize again about all of this and I hope we can move past it and enjoy the game


Didn't affect my team as I lost in the first round, but I say kudos to Seble for "manning up". Compared to the previous "regime", actually getting an apology and an admission that things didn't work right are light years ahead of where we were with TK.

Again Seble, thanks for actually telling us the truth, your response has gone a long way towards earning my respect, for what it's worth.