does anyone think that these changes will get rid of the need (or, percieved need) for the early recruiting credit?

they don't stop poachers, they just kick them in the nuts

Quote: Originally Posted By decepticons on 8/28/2008Maybe one possible fix for the scouting for multiple teams with one would be to make the advantages only applicable to the teams that acutaly pay for the scouting.

When I first read this I agreed. But you can get info from calls, trips, etc. even if you don't use the service. So if you get a valuable piece of info from one of those methods, obviously

These changes have great potential (no pun intended). Their success or failure will depend almost solely on how well (or poorly) they are implemented.

Anxiously awaiting ...

Quote: Originally Posted By jskenner on 8/28/2008If they allow such scouting services during the season, this is easily doable. If it's compacted into recruiting, that will be tougher

100% agreed. They need to make this available during the season, not just during recruiting.

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Quote: Originally Posted By naufan on 8/28/2008
I know it's only one school, but what happens at Hawaii, they already get a low amount of recruits, and now some of them are suddenly going to want to leave the islands?

It's not suddenly. The potential for a player to want to stay close to home or go far away has always been there. Now you'll just be able to see it via scouting.

is this true

No, it's not.

Quote: Originally posted by grimacedance on 8/30/2008I will say that I love the idea (from page 1) of having recruits who value academics highly and will be more likely to go where GPAs are higher. You could even have a coach's average team GPA be added to his/her profile so it follows a coach (with rookie coaches given a median GPA).

The more I think about this, the more I think that would be an awesome addition. The teams I've coached usually have very high GPA's, due to admittedly poor practice planning on my part plus the fact I just like a team with high GPA's. Kids with academic requirements would put more strategy into how much study time you give your team. Do you go with the bare minimum and risk losing out on some kids in recruiting. Or do you make a bunch of Academic All-Americans who never reach their full potential on the basketball court. An interesting change will little downside in my opinion.

Guess I am one of the few who does not like this change...oh well.

gomiami, I'm not sure if I like it or not. It depends largely on the implementation.

And we all know that WIS has made numerous changes that were meant well but implemented poorly, so I'm nervous about it.

But I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and see how it turns out.

I am in the same boat TW, we'll see how it goes and ill make an opinion then. WIS has tried and redone some things that have IMO been a failure, however they have done some really good things as well, when they did the total update of coaches pages ect it was a huge success IMO.

My only problem is, it seems like they work a little bit too much on these enhancements and don't deal with some of the problems that seem to linger

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Quote: Originally posted by grimacedance on 8/30/2008I will say that I love the idea (from page 1) of having recruits who value academics highly and will be more likely to go where GPAs are higher. You could even have a coach's average team GPA be added to his/her profile so it follows a coach (with rookie coaches given a median GPA).

The more I think about this, the more I think that would be an awesome addition. The teams I've coached usually have very high GPA's, due to admittedly poor practice planning on my part plus the fact I just like a team with high GPA's. Kids with academic requirements would put more strategy into how much study time you give your team. Do you go with the bare minimum and risk losing out on some kids in recruiting. Or do you make a bunch of Academic All-Americans who never reach their full potential on the basketball court. An interesting change will little downside in my opinion.

Rookie coaches don't need a median gpa, you just make academics mean nothing at d3 and then let a coach get his standard before he moves up. No need to complecate the game beyond all reason at d3.

I would love to see an Academic All-American list too from CI.

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I am talking about if they let us use them during the season.

there is no reason to change the other part, is there?

Quote: Originally posted by wronoj on 8/31/2008there is no reason to change the other part, is there?

I don't know. is there? IRL you are going to have done all your scouting and what not well before you offer someone a scholarship, whereas in HD you offer the ship right away (in most cases). Would it be beneficial to have the scouting services during season be cheaper then during recruiting period? That could give you an added benefit to use them as opposed to sitting on your extra money. Have them cost slightly more to use them at the start of the Recruiting period and go back down once signings start.

Another thing I just thought of is how is this going to work into NBA Early entrants. Is the scouting service going to give us any extra info that might let us know that a player is more likely to leave early?