Its a jopke so much so I dont even look at it. I think it should help

It doesnt matter unless you div 1 school. Besides that it's usless

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9/15/2009 12:30 PM zhawks
How come a player that has your school listed as his childhood favorite won't talk to you during recruiting? Seems like regardless of the kids talents on the court if his childhood favorite school came calling he'd at least talk with them.

9/15/2009 3:20 PM Customer Support
Zach,

A player should have moderate interest in a childhood favorite from the start.

9/15/2009 8:06 PM zhawks
I know what should happen, but its not the case, there is a 3 star sg that is 10 miles away and his favorite school is CC and he wouldn't even give me the time.

9/15/2009 8:57 PM Customer Support
The responses you got indicate a moderate level of interest. But you still would have had to make a strong effort to sign him. They won't just come out of their fondness for your school.

9/17/2009 2:55 PM zhawks
The response was not of moderate interest it was a backup option.

Hey Coach, I think I'll probably be playing at a different school based on what I'm hearing and seeing. If that doesn't happen though, I may consider Coastal Carolina.

Jeffrey Privalsky

9/17/2009 2:55 PM zhawks
I spoke with Jeffrey Privalsky and he told me straight up that we're a backup option if his top schools don't come through. Let's keep him on the 'maybe' list.

Donald Williams
Head Assistant Coach
Coastal Carolina

9/18/2009 12:07 PM Customer Support
If the kid is out of your range, then yeah, he might only consider you a backup. But that's realistic isn't it? Someone probably wouldn't go to a school that's been struggling when he could go to a big-time school even if the former was their childhood favorite.

9/18/2009 2:48 PM zhawks
No it is not, if a kids favorite school was Coastal Carolina and CC called them they would listen, would it be really tough for CC to win the recruit over a Georgia or Georgia Tech, maybe a Clemson or whoever? ABSOLUTELY! But that is where prestige comes into play in the recruiting. If a kids favorite school calls he'd absolutely listen, you are telling me that kids in real life don't talk with their favorite school regardless of if they intend on signing with them or not?

Again, never did I say the kid should be an insta sign (which is what you believe I am referring too) I only stated that he would take the schools calls and be willing to entertain their offers, it makes quite a bit less sense for him to slam the door in their face.

9/18/2009 5:21 PM Customer Support
He signed with Georgia a much higher prestige than your school.

9/18/2009 5:31 PM zhawks
No way? Was that not what I said? I never said I had any problem with who he signed with, my problem was that he would never take my phone call, My school is his favorite school, yet he wouldn't take my phone calls. How is that realistic?

I completely understand the difference in prestige, but I think you are confusing my problem with Favorite schools with prestige, Yes a prestigious school will have a better ability to sign said player but I am not even talking about who he did or didn't sign with I am just talking about the communication aspect of recruiting with a recruit, a recruit in real life would talk to his childhood favorite during recruiting. Yes you are absolutely right if a more prestigious school came in and talked to the recruit it would likely get harder for his favorite school (of lower prestige in this example) to sign him. But he would still talk to them not blow them off.

9/18/2009 7:10 PM Customer Support
My point is that regardless of you being his favorite, he was out of your range. That's just how it works. He's not going to show much interest in a school that's clearly below his level even if it's his childhood favorite.

9/19/2009 11:24 AM zhawks
Are you listening to anything I am saying? You are confusing a childhood favorite problem with a prestige problem.

You honestly think that if a kids childhood favorite called he would tell em "hell no" or "maybe later" ? I get that he was 'out of my range' in terms of usual prestige calculations but I was his favorite school.

Again, I completely agree it should have been tough for me to recruit against a Georgia, but that is where prestige comes in, during the recruiting / recruiting battling process.

9/19/2009 1:44 PM Customer Support
He didn't tell you "hell no". He said you were a backup option, which is entirely realistic in this case. He's not going to sacrifice a chance to go to a big time school just because you're his favorite.

9/19/2009 8:24 PM zhawks
Again, you are confusing what I am talking about with a prestige issue. I understand that he would more likely go to a higher school if they came calling. The fact is he should still chat with me and consider playing for me as his favorite school. Otherwise the feature is quite pointless.

I posted this asking about a 3 star sg (10 miles from me) that would not even talk to me during recruiting. Am I wrong here to think that he should at least talk to me? Instead of giving me the 'backup' crap?

They are really working hard to ignore what youre saying.

Thank you, that is exactly what I thought.

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Seriously WIS?

It makes sense that they he has you as a back-up option actually. Your CC team has a D- prestige, which impacts his thoughts on your program, even for a childhood favorite. He did take your "phone calls" and told you that you were unlikely to sign him. He did not say that you would never sign him - just that you were a backup to better programs. He likely did so out of respect for you as his childhood favorite. Certainly not because your team is any good in its current form.

Harrison Barnes - No. 1 recruit in this year's senior class. From Ames, Iowa. While he is keeping Iowa St as one of his final 6 schools, everybody knows that he is just keeping them on the list to be nice to his childhood favorite. They are not seriously being considered by him. Same type of thing here...

Quote: Originally posted by john_mills on 9/20/2009It makes sense that they he has you as a back-up option actually.  Your CC team has a D- prestige, which impacts his thoughts on your program, even for a childhood favorite.  He did take your "phone calls" and told you that you were unlikely to sign him.  He did not say that you would never sign him - just that you were a backup to better programs.  He likely did so out of respect for you as his childhood favorite.   Certainly not because your team is any good in its current form.Harrison Barnes - No. 1 recruit in this year's senior class.  From Ames, Iowa.  While he is keeping Iowa St as one of his final 6 schools, everybody knows that he is just keeping them on the list to be nice to his childhood favorite.  They are not seriously being considered by him.  Same type of thing here...

You contradict yourself here. Iowa State is one of his final 6 schools. That is what I am looking for here in WIS, since I am his childhood favorite he should be willing to take my calls and be recruitable, should it be tough as nails to get him. ABSOLUTELY!!! (Ie your barnes reference, actually I am saying exactly what his situation is, yet you say you disagree with me while saying the exact same thing that I said).

Iowa State is ONLY in the final 6 because he is doing them a solid, and making it seem like they are in the running when in fact, they are not. He is NOT even calling Mac up and saying "you are a backup." He is helping out his local school and potential recruiting, so ISU can say "hey, you MIGHT get to play with Harrison Barnes." In the paper a month or so ago, he said he had 5 schools for his finalists, he named them; Iowa St. was not named. Then, a couple weeks later when he "officially" named his remaining schools, there were 6, and ISU was counted amongst the previously mentioned five schools.

By telling you that you are a backup option - he IS taking your calls. That is what you are missing. He just isn't telling you something you want to hear.

You are wrong, by saying I am a backup is not taking my calls. It means he is unrecruitable by me, whereas barnes is allowing ISU to recruit him.

Quote: Originally posted by jpmills3 on 9/20/2009Iowa State is ONLY in the final 6 because he is doing them a solid, and making it seem like they are in the running when in fact, they are not.  He is NOT even calling Mac up and saying "you are a backup."  He is helping out his local school and potential recruiting, so ISU can say "hey, you MIGHT get to play with Harrison Barnes."  In the paper a month or so ago, he said he had 5 schools for his finalists, he named them; Iowa St. was not named.  Then, a couple weeks later when he "officially" named his remaining schools, there were 6, and ISU was counted amongst the previously mentioned five schools.

So he is listing them as being considered? You do realize that in HD it is not possible to be listed on a recruit while he is still considering you a backup right? So you are wrong.