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You're overly obsessed with "hard".

I won't speculate as to why...
9/21/2009 8:12 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 9/21/2009Your explanation was too wordy and complicated
But accurate!
9/21/2009 8:13 PM
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As was this: "Yes, but it's based more on Pitch Counts so an effective pitcher will throw more IP than an identical DUR/STM pitcher."
9/21/2009 8:15 PM
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Mike, I don't know why you bother (but I'm glad you do). It seems to me that you would get contradicted if you were to tell people what traffic was like on your way to work. Of course in their defense, you take the bait like a trained seal. .... I digress, as a relatively inexperienced player, I pick up alot of useful tidbits from you, even if you aren't as precise as a German watch maker.
9/21/2009 8:19 PM
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I disagree that I take the bait. I carry on when I have time, ignore the forums when I don't. I know what they're about.
9/21/2009 8:23 PM
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As I said in the other thread, tec felt the need to add something when nothing needed to be added. Maybe he was bored. Maybe he really felt I needed to be more detailed. Nonetheless, I spent 5-6 pages watching him agree with me while saying he wasn't.
9/21/2009 8:25 PM
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I can't believe that I'm the only one who believes there's something pathological about your need to create this thread. Three and a half hours after my last post in the other thread.
9/21/2009 9:10 PM
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Are you actually surprised he created this thread?
9/21/2009 9:35 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by tecwrg on 9/21/2009I can't believe that I'm the only one who believes there's something pathological about your need to create this thread.  Three and a half hours after my last post in the other thread.

You're not the only one, in fact I'm pretty sure we're in the majority
9/21/2009 11:00 PM
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I read the other thread too....I'm not sure why you guys are arguing about this as all you're really arguing about is the phrase "hard cap". I agree with Mike's estimate and the limit. But in terms of it being a "hard cap" my understanding of that would be that there is a flat, likely known or at least discoverable, consistent, IP limit. So if you could make this 18/62 guy pitch every single game he was 100 til he was done and put him in again when he was at 100, the IP would be the same amount year in and year out. This isn't true so there isn't really a hard cap innings limit.

I think what the noob may have been alluding to is (not sure if this is how SimLeague works) but 18/62 means he gets....134 innings he can pitch over the year. Thats it. You use them up in 4 months, he cant pitch after that. Been a while since i tried SLB so not sure if thats how it works, but i think thats what he wanted to know. Since this isn't how it works, its not really a hard cap, as pitch count, even days off between appearances matter.
9/21/2009 11:12 PM
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Trolls with no teams will be redlined in any thread I start. Personal rule.
9/22/2009 6:35 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By tecwrg on 9/21/2009
I can't believe that I'm the only one who believes there's something pathological about your need to create this thread. Three and a half hours after my last post in the other thread.



The thread was started to make a point without further cluttering up a "help" thread.

Threads get sidetracked with petty arguing. If you tell someone they're "wrong" or "misleading", they're going to tell you they disagree. That's how it works. Now, while I'm sure you may have disagreed with the wording, you agreed with the statement(you confirmed as much for 9 pages). What was gained by saying "As worded, that's misleading"? Nothing. And that's a problem in these forums.
9/22/2009 6:39 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 9/22/2009What was gained by saying "As worded, that's misleading"? Nothing. And that's a problem in these forums.
Cool. Day two of bickering over this.

N00b asks a question. You provide what appears (to you) to be a very straightforward answer. N00b walks away thinking "OK, there's a hard limit".

So yes, while I agree that there's a practical limit (based on effectiveness and usage), there is in fact no hard limit. By saying that your answer is "misleading" (NOTE: "misleading" is not the same as "wrong"), I'm saying that it's not quite as simplistic as a yes/no answer (which you implied).

So what's gained by my followup to your answer?: the n00b learns that there are few simple answers in this game; there's not a lot of black/white (your answer) but there are a lot of shades of grey (my answer).

Your serve, Serena.
9/22/2009 6:53 AM
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And, to be fair, I started using "hard cap" to annoy people. I initially said there is a limit to the number of pitches a pitcher can throw in a season. Doesn't matter how you use him, you can overwork him to the point of being done.
9/22/2009 6:54 AM
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And you're still agreeing with me while saying you're not.

You are a bit of a problem in these forums when it comes to actually helping. You're not the only one and I'm sure you mean well. But there are two types of trolls. The obvious(like the one I redlined) and the ones who are attempting to help but just clutter up every thread(you and those like you).

Before you post, ask yourself a question. "Will this help?" Then ask it again.
9/22/2009 6:58 AM
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