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"One day of not simming games is not going to cost the company a material amount of money."

One day will cost 1/365th of their revenue, so sure... not huge. But someone suggested all Federal holidays. That's 10 days. (http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2009.asp)

Now math isn't my strong-point, but my calculator says that's 2.7% of revenue WIS would forfeit from HBD.

You're not suggesting they could make up that lost revenue and more by using dev time to put in placeholder days for holidays are you?
11/25/2009 12:45 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By spudpicker on 11/25/2009
"One day of not simming games is not going to cost the company a material amount of money."

One day will cost 1/365th of their revenue, so sure... not huge. But someone suggested all Federal holidays. That's 10 days. (http://www.opm.gov/Operating_Status_Schedules/fedhol/2009.asp)

Now math isn't my strong-point, but my calculator says that's 2.7% of revenue WIS would forfeit from HBD.

You're not suggesting they could make up that lost revenue and more by using dev time to put in placeholder days for holidays are you?

No, I'm suggesting that there is no way that 10 days is 2.7% of WIS revenue. Also, 2.7%, even if accurate, is not a material amount of revenue. Lastly, what I am suggesting is that they may attract or keep consumers based upon users not having to check in three times per day per team during the federal holiday.
11/25/2009 6:56 AM
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I stand corrected 10/365 is 2.7%. Either way, it is not a material amount.
11/25/2009 6:57 AM
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If that's your argument, it's a pretty terrible one. Do it because you "only" lose 2.7% of your income? For someone who makes $50K, that's about $1500. Would you give up $1500 for no big reason?

It only makes sense if they think it will make their customers happier, and thus lead to more people staying on and buying more teams. I'm not sure it makes that much a difference, myself.
11/25/2009 7:11 AM
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2.7% is enough to not make them do it. One or 2 days might be feasible but all federal holidays isn't. Columbus day and president's day aren't that filled with family events. I check everyday, but there's really only a couple times a year when I need to; during the offseason for coach/FA signing and IFA signing. Even for playoffs, you can set your pitchers 3 guys ahead of time.

Having a day of or 2 might work, but I don't think all 10 is likely.
11/25/2009 7:14 AM
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We all have a lot to be thankful for in this holiday season.
11/25/2009 9:14 AM
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Why did the second chick on the refuse to grab the girl on her right's ***?

Are they fighting? Does she only have three fingers? Is she touching herself? Inquiring minds need to know.
11/25/2009 9:18 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By mfahie on 11/25/2009If that's your argument, it's a pretty terrible one. Do it because you "only" lose 2.7% of your income? For someone who makes $50K, that's about $1500. Would you give up $1500 for no big reason?

It only makes sense if they think it will make their customers happier, and thus lead to more people staying on and buying more teams. I'm not sure it makes that much a difference, myself


The don't "lose" 2.7% of their income. It's just delayed a couple of days. When there are 20+ worlds to fill, it's not a big deal. There are only a handful of worlds that fill on the same day. And, if they were really that concerned over delaying a couple of days, there wouldn't be a 3 days wait to roll and all worlds would roll at 12:01 AM on the eligible day.

Acting as if scheduling 6-10 "off day" over the course of a calendar year is a financial burden is stupid.
11/25/2009 9:22 AM
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seems to me credit card payments can be accepted/made on holidays just as well as on 'normal' days. how is wis losing money on holidays again?

11/25/2009 11:50 AM
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Because the worlds wouldn't complete as quickly. And we know worlds fill and roll immediately.
11/25/2009 12:00 PM
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11/25/2009 12:02 PM
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Wow... we're all now dumber for having read that. No wonder why I was limiting reading your garbage to 2 letters.
11/25/2009 12:13 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By MikeT23 on 11/25/2009
Quote: Originally Posted By mfahie on 11/25/2009
If that's your argument, it's a pretty terrible one. Do it because you "only" lose 2.7% of your income? For someone who makes $50K, that's about $1500. Would you give up $1500 for no big reason?

It only makes sense if they think it will make their customers happier, and thus lead to more people staying on and buying more teams. I'm not sure it makes that much a difference, myself.



The don't "lose" 2.7% of their income. It's just delayed a couple of days. When there are 20+ worlds to fill, it's not a big deal. There are only a handful of worlds that fill on the same day. And, if they were really that concerned over delaying a couple of days, there wouldn't be a 3 days wait to roll and all worlds would roll at 12:01 AM on the eligible day.

Acting as if scheduling 6-10 "off day" over the course of a calendar year is a financial burden is stupid.
Delayed revenue is lost revenue in this case, since its delay also delays future revenue. It's not like they can start running Season 14 before Season 13 finishes.

Also, when you're losing revenue one way (unfilled worlds), very few businesses say "how else can we reduce revenue".

2.7% is a lot of revenue to give up when there is no corresponding reduction in expenses. We don't know what their income statements look like, but if profit is only 6-8% of revenue, 2.7% would be painful. Now if they also saved on expenses, we have a different situation.
11/25/2009 12:16 PM
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"Also, when you're losing revenue one way (unfilled worlds), very few businesses say "how else can we reduce revenue"."

Hilarious, not sure why you gave his idiotic logic the time of day, but well done in any case.
11/25/2009 12:19 PM
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If delaying 2.7% of your revenue for 6 days is a problem, you've got bigger problems.

As I noted, WifS could do a lot to facilitate faster world completions. Reduce spring training, cut out placeholder days entirely, shorten/consolidate some event days, etc, etc. Adding half a dozen days a year, not a season, to worlds shouldn't be an issue financially.
11/25/2009 12:22 PM
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