#1 draft pick.....whom do I choose? Topic

eeyore1959
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#2 can play very soon even if he doesn't reach projections, #1 needs the pitches to all peak to even contribute as #4/#5/LR. Go with #2
1/25/2010 9:28 AM
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Quote: Originally Posted By eeyore1959 on 1/25/2010
#2 can play very soon even if he doesn't reach projections, #1 needs the pitches to all peak to even contribute as #4/#5/LR. Go with #2
Check out the season this guy just put up with some really crappy pitches and very good everything else. I was watching him as an experiment:

Derrick Ward
1/25/2010 9:57 AM
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1/25/2010 10:09 AM
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1/25/2010 10:24 AM
gjello10
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I know, but his road line was much better than a #4/#5/LRA, as some have suggested. Here it is:

17 starts

7-4

81 K/33 BB

.259/.316/.367

1.36 WHIP

3.67 ERA



Not a Cy Young winner, but pretty salty nonetheless. And while his control is excellent, his splits are very good but not drop-dead great.

I'm just saying, people are too quick to dismiss this type of pitcher. They can make terriffic middle-of-the-rotation guys and maybe passable #1/2s.
1/25/2010 10:40 AM
gjello10
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Pitcher #1 has much better splits than Ward, as well.
1/25/2010 10:41 AM
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Gabby Martin

His career was significantly hurt by the old bug that didn't allow for ratings recovery from injuries during a particular time frame at the end of the season, but his less-than-stellar pitches haven't kept him from being very productive.
1/25/2010 11:10 AM
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I would love to see the rotations that the guys who say #1 is a 5th starter trot out there in their leagues.

#1's bad pitches do hurt his overall value, but he'll still be a very good pitcher, as you'd be surprised at how much his good control and splits will negate the poor pitches.

Now back onto the issue at hand. If I had the #1 pick in that draft I'm not sure I'd be incredibly pleased that those were my best 2 options. I'd probably go with #1 if I didn't have a stud hitter available to take instead.
1/25/2010 11:34 AM
schuyler101
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i'd think about picking one who wasn't likely to sign and then grab pick #2 the following season...
1/25/2010 12:14 PM
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Maybe I'm missing something, but why would anyone not want Pitcher 2 at the top of their rotation. Great control, great splits, high VE, three excellent pitches? If not an ace, certainly a very good SP.

Pitcher #1 has great control and splits, and a better GB, but his pitch quality is mediocre.
1/25/2010 12:21 PM
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Pitcher 1 is my choice. 90 plus control, 90 vs R, 90 velocity and 100 gb/fb ratio more than makes up for the subpar pitches, as zbrent pointed out.

Pitcher 2 is not top pick quality, because he is a tweener, a guy who will get you 85 pitches max. If his stamina was higher I'd entertain the thought of taking him over pitcher 1.
1/25/2010 1:21 PM
phillyfan009
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Dean Hernandez

I found this guy in another league...he has good pitches, close to pitcher #1...and he has won at least 7 CY Young Awards.... and pitcher #1 has better control, and the same if not a tad better splits.
1/25/2010 2:06 PM
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Quote: Originally posted by phillyfan009 on 1/25/2010Dean Hernandez

I found this guy in another league...he has good pitches, close to pitcher #1...and he has won at least 7 CY Young Awards.... and pitcher #1 has better control, and the same if not a tad better splits.

This guy's in Cobb where there is an owner named phillyfan33 Any relation?
1/25/2010 3:53 PM
spudpicker
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#1, listen to schedule1 over anyone else here.
1/25/2010 4:14 PM
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Quote: Originally Posted By big_doggie on 1/25/2010
Quote: Originally posted by phillyfan009 on 1/25/2010Dean Hernandez

I found this guy in another league...he has good pitches, close to pitcher #1...and he has won at least 7 CY Young Awards.... and pitcher #1 has better control, and the same if not a tad better splits.

This guy's in Cobb where there is an owner named phillyfan33 Any relation
1/25/2010 4:39 PM
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