Mine too actually. (More accurately - another expression of yours) Though I have yet to run across such a machine.

oh. I forgot to multiply yours by 15. Mice algabraing

Regardless Im not setting the pitch count that high.

I think I have posted that formula before. It calculates IP per year.... roughly.

For pitches per outing, I usually add 15 to STA for starters.

Its not an issue of how fast they can recover, its an issue of how effective will they be when they are pitching tired. Your 80/80 Ace might be a worse pitcher than your 60/60 reliever once he gets into the 8th and 9th inning.

In other words, your pitch count should reflect how long your starter can pitch effectively, not how long he can pitch and still recover for his next start.

Start with the recommended settings and adjust upward or downward through time based on your experience and observation.

Quote: Originally posted by apollo7 on 4/30/2010Its not an issue of how fast they can recover, its an issue of how effective will they be when they are pitching tired.   Your 80/80 Ace might be a worse pitcher than your 60/60 reliever once he gets into the 8th and 9th inning.In other words, your pitch count should reflect how long your starter can pitch effectively, not how long he can pitch and still recover for his next start.Start with the recommended settings and adjust upward or downward through time based on your experience and observation.  

That's why I like to adjust pull ratings with starters rather than pitch count.

Quote: Originally Posted By moos3p on 4/30/2010

Quote: Originally posted by apollo7 on 4/30/2010
Its not an issue of how fast they can recover, its an issue of how effective will they be when they are pitching tired. Your 80/80 Ace might be a worse pitcher than your 60/60 reliever once he gets into the 8th and 9th inning.

In other words, your pitch count should reflect how long your starter can pitch effectively, not how long he can pitch and still recover for his next start.

Start with the recommended settings and adjust upward or downward through time based on your experience and observation.

That's why I like to adjust pull ratings with starters rather than pitch count.

Really, you want to use both. Set TPC to where you think the pitcher starts experiencing fatigue, and then use the pull rating to yank him when he starts to get into trouble after that point. If he never gets into trouble, he stays in until he reaches MPC.