Overhaul coach hiring Topic

DUMP THE WHOLE POSITION OF FIELDING COACH. Base fielding development on the other coaches' fielding rating.

Problem solved.
2/10/2010 7:03 PM
Dump coaching altogether. If everyone is going to get comparable coaches, there is no reason to have it. As I said, FI was the last one worth bothering to bid on because all the others are the same.
2/11/2010 6:01 AM
Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/10/2010The biggest problem is everyone wants "good" coaching.  So do I.  But, unlike most, when I don't get the coaching I want, I adjust how I do things next time.   Hiring a coach is no different than signing a player.   If I want a player, I bid on him.   If I want to use him as a SS, because he has SS ratings, I can't complain if my rival signs him and plays him at 3B.  I lost out on the bidding process.  Maybe I get stuck with my schlub AAA SS with a 77 glove.  Them's the breaks.
That would be a good analogy only if players turn down max contract offers for SS to get the ML minimum to play 3B.
2/11/2010 7:13 AM
make it like health care. Nothing gets you a basic coaching staff. Pay more to get more.
2/11/2010 8:35 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By shobob on 2/11/2010
Quote: Originally posted by MikeT23 on 2/10/2010 The biggest problem is everyone wants "good" coaching. So do I. But, unlike most, when I don't get the coaching I want, I adjust how I do things next time. Hiring a coach is no different than signing a player. If I want a player, I bid on him. If I want to use him as a SS, because he has SS ratings, I can't complain if my rival signs him and plays him at 3B. I lost out on the bidding process. Maybe I get stuck with my schlub AAA SS with a 77 glove. Them's the breaks.
That would be a good analogy only if players turn down max contract offers for SS to get the ML minimum to play 3B


Irrelevant to the discussion.

If you don't get the guy you seek, it doesn't really matter what he did. You man up and make another plan.

Or you cry until WifS "fixes" your "problem".
2/11/2010 9:03 AM
coach hiring is awful....
2/11/2010 9:37 AM
No, it really isn't. The only competition was for FI. Every other position could be filled reasonably easy.

Coach hiring will soon be pointless because an advantage can't be gained.
2/11/2010 10:50 AM
What they should do is one of 2 things:

(A) treat coaches like real people, the way they do players, with long-term contracts and a more detailed renegotiation for returning coaches.

or

(B) Just make it a budget, like training, where the more you pay the more you get.
2/11/2010 10:56 AM
I'm even fine with just allocate a dollar amount between 4-20 million to coaching just like training or medical and thats it. And by the way Mike, this is a much better thread than your last one.
2/11/2010 11:02 AM
You can't imagine how much I seek your approval.
2/11/2010 11:08 AM
Since people are whining about "real life", here's how you do it;

You fire coaches, coaches leave; that already exists. The existing coaches do not accept salary less than what they made last year. The same is ok.
You have a pool of coaches that are available, and the salary they made last year; that is the baseline for the salary they will accept (maybe a little less, say up to 10%, maybe not)
You have an "interview" process; you invite coaches for an interview, they accept or reject the interview immediately (no cycle). You now have the pool of coaches with whom you can negotiate.
You have a cap on the number of interviews per coaching position - probably 5. You have intelligence within the software that will, behind the scenes, figure out that each team will not be shafted out of a coach by position based on the number of interviews and with whom. If a scenario is created where a team could be shafted, a coach with multiple interviews will reject the interview request, thus forcing the team to seek an interview with another coach elsewhere.
This interview process lasts 3-6 cycles.
Now, you have salary negotiation. Highest bidder on each coach wins. Because no one can get shafted out of a coach, worst case scenario is that an owner has to hire their least wanted interviewee.
No data is made available as to how many interviews that coach has. Thus, you may be bidding against yourself and only yourself, and never know.

This is the correct solution.
You're all welcome.

2/11/2010 11:18 AM
Too long, fakedeathinahole.
2/11/2010 11:27 AM
It is a bit long, but so worth the read because it solves everything.

# of coaches-not increased.
Shafted with the bottom of the barrel; only if you are stupid.
Long, tedious coach hiring - solved.


It's gawdamn brilliant.
2/11/2010 11:30 AM


"I wish I thought of that"
2/11/2010 11:31 AM
Quote: Originally posted by deathinahole on 2/11/2010Since people are whining about "real life", here's how you do it;You fire coaches, coaches leave; that already exists. The existing coaches do not accept salary less than what they made last year. The same is ok.
You have a pool of coaches that are available, and the salary they made last year; that is the baseline for the salary they will accept (maybe a little less, say up to 10%, maybe not)
You have an "interview" process; you invite coaches for an interview, they accept or reject the interview immediately (no cycle). You now have the pool of coaches with whom you can negotiate.
You have a cap on the number of interviews per coaching position - probably 5. You have intelligence within the software that will, behind the scenes, figure out that each team will not be shafted out of a coach by position based on the number of interviews and with whom. If a scenario is created where a team could be shafted, a coach with multiple interviews will reject the interview request, thus forcing the team to seek an interview with another coach elsewhere.
This interview process lasts 3-6 cycles.
Now, you have salary negotiation. Highest bidder on each coach wins. Because no one can get shafted out of a coach, worst case scenario is that an owner has to hire their least wanted interviewee.
No data is made available as to how many interviews that coach has. Thus, you may be bidding against yourself and only yourself, and never know.This is the correct solution.
You're all welcome. 

everyone hates coach hiring. this would make everyone hate it more.

and...your smugness takes away from this idea, if that's possible.

What does the "interview" process consist of? An actual phone call from CS pretending to be the coach?

Also, for that type of feedback you need way more than 6 cycles.
2/11/2010 11:38 AM
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