Well my experiement starts tomorrow. I limited my guys pitching to 2/3 of an inning in spring training and I am making him my SP1 (to maximize recovery days). I have him set for 75-80 pitches. I am interested to see how he does.

Quote: Originally Posted By zbrent716 on 5/20/2010
Walt Lorraine throws 86 pitches in 4 innings.

He promptly falls to 0 (0) after the game.

After the AM game, he is at 0 (4). He has been deactivated. I expect him to be ready to pitch in another 20 games or so. So, best case scenario, with a lower pitch count than some might use, I could probably get about 7-8 starts from him, with a total of maybe 25-30 innings.

I'll stick with the 20-25 closer-quality innings to finish off close games. Seems to me like a better use of a player like this.

5/19 PM2 was when Walt threw 86 pitches.

5/23 after PM2 cycle, he is at 36 (39).

My guy made his first start today

He went 3 scoreless innings but was extremely inefficient needing 75 pitches to do so. He was replaced before the 4th.

After the game he's at 37 (40), So he's probably another 20 HBD days before pitching. Est. next start May 31st or so.

My guy is back up to 60 as of today still a long way to go.

Looking through my other teams I did realize that I signed 0 durability international FA. He's a beast except for his durability.

97 Stamina 89 Control 73/88 splits 80+ velocity and GB 93 87 64 pitches.

I am going to start running the same experiement with him in my minors. If we are expecting 40IP from a 65 stamina, think it's safe to expect 60IP from a 97 stamina?

Does this guy have options ? I know as a rule 5 you can't option him down, but you could next year if he has options . Has me thinking, perhaps next year, and every option year , or years following when he clears waivers, you could stow him away in AAA, get him lots of rest at the end of the year, and if you make the playoffs, he'd be a good 1 inning pitcher in close games for a couple of series games. perhaps setting him to 10/15 and you could get 2 appearances in a series, 3 over 2 series or something. that might be the best way to go about him if his skills are great.

Maybe you only get 30 innings out of him a year, but if you can leverage those such that their impace innings in the postseason, that would seem to be the best plan. That of course assumes you feel pretty confident about reaching the postseason the next couple of years. If not, could be an idea to sell him to a contender for a useful prospect.

Quote: Originally posted by jahu43 on 5/27/2010My guy is back up to 60 as of today still a long way to go.Looking through my other teams I did realize that I signed 0 durability international FA. He's a beast except for his durability.97 Stamina 89 Control 73/88 splits 80+ velocity and GB 93 87 64 pitches.I am going to start running the same experiement with him in my minors. If we are expecting 40IP from a 65 stamina, think it's safe to expect 60IP from a 97 stamina?

I think everything has to break just right to get 40 IP out of a 65 stamina guy. I think 60 is on the high side for a 97.

I can't imagine why (during the regular season anyway) you'd use the 97 guy the way you're experimenting now rather than simply enjoy the 40 save-40 IP guy he could be as closer.

Quote: Originally Posted By zbrent716 on 5/27/2010

Quote: Originally posted by jahu43 on 5/27/2010
My guy is back up to 60 as of today still a long way to go.

Looking through my other teams I did realize that I signed 0 durability international FA. He's a beast except for his durability.

97 Stamina 89 Control 73/88 splits 80+ velocity and GB 93 87 64 pitches.

I am going to start running the same experiement with him in my minors. If we are expecting 40IP from a 65 stamina, think it's safe to expect 60IP from a 97 stamina?

I think everything has to break just right to get 40 IP out of a 65 stamina guy. I think 60 is on the high side for a 97.

I can't imagine why (during the regular season anyway) you'd use the 97 guy the way you're experimenting now rather than simply enjoy the 40 save-40 IP guy he could be as closer

I am going to try him out as a SP and as a closer he'll be in the minors for a few seasons see what works best

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I agree likely the best use for him will be as a closer, however depending upon team need he may be better suited for a spot start due to injury (or one start in the playoffs).

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After the 5/30 PM Cycle Delaney is up to 95 (98). I have him slotted to pitch 5/31 PM.

He pitched 75 pitches his first start. He started the first game of the season, his next start will be game 20.

Based on this spacing he'd be looking at approx. 8 starts or around 40 IP

Delaney made his start at 5/30 PM. He threw 74 pitches and went 5 innings for the win.

For the season he has pitched 8 innings with a 2.25 ERA

After the game his stamina was at 17(21), so his next expected start would be 21 HBD days or approximately June 7th. So he is still on pace for approx. 8-9 starts.

Alrighty.

I wonder if the 0s went from gaining 4 points per day to 3. I think the math works there (from when I had it to now).

Or, maybe it was my genius squeezing 13 out of him.

Walt had a string outing as well, going 6 innings with 88 pitches and allowing only 1 ER in picking up the win.

5/31 AM game.

He promptly dropped to 0(0) and even after resting the 5/31 PM game remains there. With only 27 days to go in the regular season, I think it's safe to say we won't see him pitching again until the post-season, and that's only if we're fortunate enough to go deep. Otherwise, maybe he'll be ready by Spring Training.