New engine - guard dominated scoring Topic

I bet it was that way on the old engine too. Guards do a lot of scoring.
6/2/2010 11:00 PM
Quote: Originally posted by daveymac on 6/02/2010I bet it was that way on the old engine too. Guards do a lot of scoring.

Not in the 2 years that I've been playing. Much of it is the huge increase in fouls on guards now. I'm 6 games into the season my 2-guards have already shot about as many FTs as they did in 32 games last year. Minutes, distro, pretty much the same as last year for all 11 players. But my big men are no longer as efficient, while my guards and starting SF are off the charts.
6/2/2010 11:19 PM
Ya but your also seeing the swing back from many sub-par teams running the press where not it has more fouls being committed.

Give it 2 or so seasons after the bad press teams are fewer and it will probably even out. Also, where is your PPP analysis for the general divisions then? Also, how do you figure it out for the whole division?

I am usually really good at finding stats like this but have found nothing on PPP ratings for the NCAA, so how do you know they don't mirror the NCAA now? I will keep looking but I don't see anything right now.
6/2/2010 11:39 PM
Quote: Originally posted by cthomas22255 on 6/02/2010Now, the pendulum has swung toward guards and SFs. Has anyone tried implementing a 4-5 guard lineup yet? Just curious.
I was looking at my old Rowan (Smith) team to see how the new engine was working. They are playing the SG I recruited at PF. 4 G lineup..
6/2/2010 11:59 PM
Quote: Originally Posted By cthomas22255 on 6/02/2010
Quote: Originally posted by daveymac on 6/02/2010 I bet it was that way on the old engine too. Guards do a lot of scoring.

Not in the 2 years that I've been playing. Much of it is the huge increase in fouls on guards now. I'm 6 games into the season my 2-guards have already shot about as many FTs as they did in 32 games last year. Minutes, distro, pretty much the same as last year for all 11 players. But my big men are no longer as efficient, while my guards and starting SF are off the charts.
cthomas, I've always tracked PPS closely, and if you don't think that perimeter players were absolutely dominant over interior players in that stat in the old engine, then you need to seriously re-check your math.
6/3/2010 12:07 AM
setting your guards with great FT shooting to -1 or -2 is the new hotness. The 3 pt shot is dead.
6/3/2010 12:15 AM
I honestly think it's a good sign when you have some people claiming that the 3pt shot is too strong and others that the 3pt shot is dead.
6/3/2010 12:33 AM
I've only seen 1 person (hacker) now claim its dead. It is way to powerful now. To many 3's are going up, and to many 3's are going in. Well, compared to the old engine. Its to early to tell if its good/bad, but seeing teams shoot over 20 3's and hit majority of them is going to take time to get use to.
6/3/2010 12:39 AM
Quote: Originally Posted By furry_nipps on 6/03/2010I've only seen 1 person (hacker) now claim its dead. It is way to powerful now. To many 3's are going up, and to many 3's are going in. Well, compared to the old engine. Its to early to tell if its good/bad, but seeing teams shoot over 20 3's and hit majority of them is going to take time to get use to.
Maybe people need to stop playing minus defenses so much. What do you think would happen in real life if every team sagged off the 3 point line?
6/3/2010 12:42 AM
People are not playing an in your face defence out on the 3 point line. They sag off and put a hand up. A lot of times I see a person on the 3 point line and his defender is at least 4 feet away.
6/3/2010 1:02 AM
Quote: Originally posted by furry_nipps on 6/03/2010People are not playing an in your face defence out on the 3 point line. They sag off and put a hand up. A lot of times I see a person on the 3 point line and his defender is at least 4 feet away.

. . and that normal, if it is four feet, is what a zero represents. SO when you are playing a -3. . . yeah.
6/3/2010 7:13 AM
Quote: Originally posted by uwbball on 6/02/2010Ya but your also seeing the swing back from many sub-par teams running the press where not it has more fouls being committed.

Give it 2 or so seasons after the bad press teams are fewer and it will probably even out. Also, where is your PPP analysis for the general divisions then? Also, how do you figure it out for the whole division?

I am usually really good at finding stats like this but have found nothing on PPP ratings for the NCAA, so how do you know they don't mirror the NCAA now? I will keep looking but I don't see anything right now.

Uh, kenpom.com.
6/3/2010 7:32 AM
I'm not seeing any difference with 3-pointers. But I think fouls on 3-pointers are also way up above the 1.5% it used to be.

I've more than doubled my opponents' FTAs so far (no Sims in that, either). That make all the difference.
6/3/2010 7:40 AM
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6/3/2010 8:28 AM
I track my players' PPS as well, and I pulled up 3 years of data. A little over half of my top 60 players in PPS per season are PF/C - nothing convincing either way. I typically set my distributions to zero for all players, so theroetically no one is forcing up shots.
6/3/2010 8:35 AM
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