and it just seems with an new engine there would be a new world...the control world if you will....
6/20/2010 10:59 PM
Only way I want to see a new world is if an existing world is removed.  From what I've read, that would probably alienate the old-timers of that world, but couldn't they be offered an incentive?  Let those from long stadning D1 programs start in D2 if they want.  That would give them the quickest jump to D1 and the chance to get their same D1 school.  It wouldn't be perfect, but it's a thought.  In addition, ramp up firings for the new world.
6/20/2010 11:25 PM

ONly long standing?  SO if someone, for example, worked their way up the hard way to division one, finally gets a division one team. . then the world starts over and they have to go back to division three because they only had one season at dI??

 

6/20/2010 11:34 PM
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Posted by tmacfan12 on 6/20/2010 9:50:00 PM (view original):
Posted by dalter on 6/20/2010 5:57:00 PM (view original):
Worst. Idea. Ever.

Tmac, I don't expect that from someone who's been around as long as you and has seen the negative effect that opening too many worlds had. We need the existing worlds to be reasonably filled before they even entertain the notion of any new worlds.
also, I like the Worst. Idea. Ever. Is that a simpsons reference? Whatever it is it really makes my post look much worse, you pretty much instantly convinced me it was stupid by just looking at those words lol.
Lol, tmac. Yeah, it's a Simpsons (Comic Book Guy) reference.
6/20/2010 11:46 PM
Posted by texrangers19 on 6/20/2010 9:18:00 PM (view original):
I see the argument against, why open a new world when the existing ones aren't full. It does makes sense, however, existing worlds will never be full and that is the honest truth. The only thing to do in a world that is in the 30th+ season is rebuild a program that has never been successful. That is fun to do but probably the most expensive thing to do as well...I enjoy rebuilding a program, but I have never been in a world from season 1 and for me personally, hope to get the chance sometime...
Sorry, that's just plain wrong. Many DIII worlds were full at one point, you used to have to stay up late just to get a team. (And I'm talking before FreeHD was even a twinkle in Admin's eye, so it wasn't due to that.) And to say the only thing to do in an established world is "rebuild a program that's never been successful" ... I can't even fathom why you would possibly say that. It's extremely common to take over a good team that lost its coach -- I'd say that happens even more than taking over a total rebuild.

I respect your desire to be in a world from Season 1, but your arguments are poorly informed and fallacious, and the logic just isn't ... well, logical.
6/20/2010 11:50 PM
I'll come back to HD, how about a 3 game a day world...
6/21/2010 12:05 AM
the only way i would even consider supporting a new world is if there was an expiration date of like 30 seasons. but then it would probably be really lame for the last 5 or 10. so its probably a horrible idea there as well. the worlds are far too empty to open a new world, i think.
6/21/2010 12:11 AM
Posted by girt25 on 6/20/2010 11:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by vandydave on 6/20/2010 10:15:00 PM (view original):
if wis were to add worlds i bet the overall number of user teams would increase.

what i dont know is what the real cost to them as far as software/hardware/ticket responding each world requires and what the "break even" number would be to make it worth their while overall.
Why are you looking at it from a profit perspective from WIS? First, that's for them to worry about, not us. Second, any calculation would be incomplete because they couldn't possibly factor in the negative repercussions down the road of people dropping a team because the world they are in has become that much less competitive, fun, interesting, etc.

As users, we should be looking at it from what is best for the health of HD and is going to produce the best HD experience.
thanks for telling me how i should look at things, i really needed that.
6/21/2010 2:32 AM
Posted by a_in_the_b on 6/20/2010 11:34:00 PM (view original):

ONly long standing?  SO if someone, for example, worked their way up the hard way to division one, finally gets a division one team. . then the world starts over and they have to go back to division three because they only had one season at dI??

 

Well, you could let let any D1 start in D2.  Is that better.  It would have to include more firings, too.  There is no pefect answer, but a 100 season world seems awful silly, don't you think?

6/21/2010 8:05 AM (edited)
Here's an idea you might think is either interesting and different...or a dumb idea. A new world for veteran coaches,with NO recruiting.The twist in this New World is your Recruiting History.Select your 12 man roster from ALL the players you and only you recruited for your school. The longer you stay with your school,the more players you have to choose from.For each new season you can keep the roster as is,or make some changes. The concept of a coach trying to select 12 players from a list of 20,30,40 or more, and making it work,I think is more challenging than it seems.
6/21/2010 5:41 AM
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I'd like them to adjust the turbo worlds they have now.  Seems silly that their down times overlap.
6/21/2010 7:49 AM
Posted by dalter on 6/21/2010 7:31:00 AM (view original):
Posted by vandydave on 6/21/2010 2:32:00 AM (view original):
Posted by girt25 on 6/20/2010 11:45:00 PM (view original):
Posted by vandydave on 6/20/2010 10:15:00 PM (view original):
if wis were to add worlds i bet the overall number of user teams would increase.

what i dont know is what the real cost to them as far as software/hardware/ticket responding each world requires and what the "break even" number would be to make it worth their while overall.
Why are you looking at it from a profit perspective from WIS? First, that's for them to worry about, not us. Second, any calculation would be incomplete because they couldn't possibly factor in the negative repercussions down the road of people dropping a team because the world they are in has become that much less competitive, fun, interesting, etc.

As users, we should be looking at it from what is best for the health of HD and is going to produce the best HD experience.
thanks for telling me how i should look at things, i really needed that.
I asked you why you would be looking at it from a WIS management perspective, rather than a user perspective (since, you know, we're the users and all).
i am able to see things from multiple perspectives, must just be a gift i have.
6/21/2010 9:01 AM
some things never change
6/21/2010 10:12 AM
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